Cabrinha 2n1 Control Bar on Contra

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giBiLatoR
giBiLatoR
QLD
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QLD, 147 posts
31 Jan 2012 9:42pm
Hey folks, first time I've been able to test out my light wind kite today, bit of a blast from the past but a 17m 2007 Cabby Contra. Bought this kite on a budget to get me out in anything less then 11 knots where my other kites take effect. The kite itself is AMAZING. Overpowered when it gusted to around 12 smashing around in 8 knots effortlessly jumping (65kg).

THE PROBLEM... A mate who i went down with has owned one before and he noticed it wasn't using the pulleys and its only now that I have had time to research that we were flying it in the 1:1 configuration which I've read quite extensively that is highly not recommended. Just wondering if anyone else has had experience with it? Love the light bar pressure that you get without using the pulleys and although the timing may be slightly more difficult (kite is a ****load slower) is there anything else I should be worried about?

also suicide leashing only?? doesn't phase me too much but is that for real?

Cheers Josh
terminal
terminal
1421 posts
1421 posts
1 Feb 2012 2:15am
Safety is to leash to one front line. There should be a ring on the line to be leashed to. You just need a long leash and leash under the bar.

I had the 14. Pulls like a truck and turns slow. I always used it on the pulley bar.
stuntnaz
stuntnaz
NSW
540 posts
NSW, 540 posts
1 Feb 2012 4:51pm
terminal said...

Safety is to leash to one front line. There should be a ring on the line to be leashed to. You just need a long leash and leash under the bar.

I had the 14. Pulls like a truck and turns slow. I always used it on the pulley bar.


The only problem with attaching to the flagging ring is you cant spin the bar when your lines cross ,leash gets tangled in the bar .
mofo
mofo
QLD
91 posts
QLD, 91 posts
1 Feb 2012 9:01pm
I had 2 of these kites a 14m and a 17 m .I did try and fly them on a 1:1 bar and had no success.they turn way to slow on this setting ,if you think about it the pulley bar is actually set up as 1:2 ,which means if you pull the bar in 1 inch the back lines pull in 2 inches ,which is why when you set it up 1:1 it turns a hell of a lot slower ,essentially you have to pull the bar in twice as far to achieve the same effect you would need a bar twice as long!, the only benifit is the bar pressure is lighter but it turns like a pig.they turn alot better with the 1:2 bar but the bar pressure is horrific. I believe there was a bridle modification you can do to make them 1:1 but I could never find a successful mod.

Also found the 17m flew nicer on 30m lines but the 14 was bloody horrible on the longer lines.

The safety system on these kites is ordinary to say the least . I use to run suicide or if it was sketchy (I had a moded depower system ,more or less a cleat system the same as a north , those straps are crap ) and I use to attach the safety leash to the end of the depower rope ,if you pulled the safety if would pull so much depower on the kite would fall out of the sky. Not the best but it seemed to do the job , never felt 100% safe on those kites like I did on the 5th line norths.
giBiLatoR
giBiLatoR
QLD
147 posts
QLD, 147 posts
1 Feb 2012 9:41pm
mofo said...

I had 2 of these kites a 14m and a 17 m .I did try and fly them on a 1:1 bar and had no success.they turn way to slow on this setting ,if you think about it the pulley bar is actually set up as 1:2 ,which means if you pull the bar in 1 inch the back lines pull in 2 inches ,which is why when you set it up 1:1 it turns a hell of a lot slower ,essentially you have to pull the bar in twice as far to achieve the same effect you would need a bar twice as long!, the only benifit is the bar pressure is lighter but it turns like a pig.they turn alot better with the 1:2 bar but the bar pressure is horrific. I believe there was a bridle modification you can do to make them 1:1 but I could never find a successful mod.

Also found the 17m flew nicer on 30m lines but the 14 was bloody horrible on the longer lines.

The safety system on these kites is ordinary to say the least . I use to run suicide or if it was sketchy (I had a moded depower system ,more or less a cleat system the same as a north , those straps are crap ) and I use to attach the safety leash to the end of the depower rope ,if you pulled the safety if would pull so much depower on the kite would fall out of the sky. Not the best but it seemed to do the job , never felt 100% safe on those kites like I did on the 5th line norths.


Ahh, not a bad idea with the depower strap. I know it was bloody slow but not unmanageable, albeit much preferred over horrendous bar pressure. Trying to work out downsides as I'm considering running 27m lines in a modern bar with conventional safety etc...

The only downside I would imagine is that the depower throw is now halved as well?!


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