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GJOchoa
GJOchoa
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13 Feb 2012 2:06pm
Hi there!!! I had my first session with my new kite :D swallowed a lot of water, but still loving it!!! Do I have to rinse my kite with fresh water after every session? or is it enough just to get rid of the sand (not all of it, kind of impossible I think)? I live in an unit and don't have a huge yard in which I could rinse the kite. I would appreciate any comment. Cheers
BurkeyBoy
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13 Feb 2012 1:48pm
Hey. Kites are designed to be able to handle saltwater. Obviously the less they're in the water the better. Fresh water has bacteria which produces mold and mildew. I wash down my kites only when I know I can let them fully dry before putting away. If It's late in the afternoon I wait until the next morning. If I expect to kite the next day or even the day after, I often don't wash off at all, unless they're really wet and sandy. On some days I start and finish with a dry kite so the only thing I rinse out and dry are the pulleys. I usually pack my kite away with the pulleys hanging out of the bag and then rinse and let dry.
If you want to make your gear last, look after it. Don't leave kites in a hot car, particularly with struts up. The glue on the valves will give if it gets too hot too often.
GJOchoa
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13 Feb 2012 2:26pm
BurkeyBoy said...

Hey. Kites are designed to be able to handle saltwater. Obviously the less they're in the water the better. Fresh water has bacteria which produces mold and mildew. I wash down my kites only when I know I can let them fully dry before putting away. If It's late in the afternoon I wait until the next morning. If I expect to kite the next day or even the day after, I often don't wash off at all, unless they're really wet and sandy. On some days I start and finish with a dry kite so the only thing I rinse out and dry are the pulleys. I usually pack my kite away with the pulleys hanging out of the bag and then rinse and let dry.
If you want to make your gear last, look after it. Don't leave kites in a hot car, particularly with struts up. The glue on the valves will give if it gets too hot too often.


Thanks for the advice mate :D
SpawnofFossl
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13 Feb 2012 2:30pm
^^^^ +1 ^^^^^

There has been discussions on this forum in regards to which is better eg: rinse with fresh water or not. I think burke is right on the money with a balance between the two.

It is important to not pack your kite up wet especially with fresh water and when you are learning as your kite will get wet a lot.

i generally hang my kite up in a shaded area without rinsing it and then brush sand off when it is dry. I alwasys rinse my lines, harness, wetsuit etc especially anything that has moving parts - eg pulleys and clips.

Silicon spray can be used if you have pulleys to stop them getting clogged up.
GJOchoa
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13 Feb 2012 2:30pm
Btw, by kiting am I married to sand? I mean there's sand everywhere in the bag, to the point that I think it is almost impossible to get rid of all the sand...
sbray
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13 Feb 2012 2:45pm
hi Guillermo,

What type of kite did you end up buying ?

Along the same thoughts as Burkey Boy & Spawn, ( he beat me to the keyboard with this reply), the enemies of your kite are:
- sand, this goes for lines as well.
- packed away still wet/damp from fresh water.
- constant flapping of the canopy (usually while waiting on the beach).
- extreme temperatures eg. in hot car for lengthy time.

- and of course dragging/abrading along rough beaches, rocks, not to mention trees & bushes etc.

Our family tend to do similar to Burkey Boy's methods.
If un-rinsed we hang the kites to dry then carefully (with a soft brush) remove any sand seaweed etc. It is amazing how much sand your kite can collect, especially if it is wet when you pack up.

If possible a freshwater rinse usually removes most debris.

I rinse any pulleys, wait until dry, then carefully apply silicone dry lube spray to keep them working.

I rinse & dry my bar & lines as often as I can as sand can abrade your lines.

Maybe we will see you at Parham on the next good wind & tide

regards
fossil
GJOchoa
GJOchoa
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13 Feb 2012 3:00pm
sbray said...

hi Guillermo,

What type of kite did you end up buying ?

Along the same thoughts as Burkey Boy & Spawn, ( he beat me to the keyboard with this reply), the enemies of your kite are:
- sand, this goes for lines as well.
- packed away still wet/damp from fresh water.
- constant flapping of the canopy (usually while waiting on the beach).
- extreme temperatures eg. in hot car for lengthy time.

- and of course dragging/abrading along rough beaches, rocks, not to mention trees & bushes etc.

Our family tend to do similar to Burkey Boy's methods.
If un-rinsed we hang the kites to dry then carefully (with a soft brush) remove any sand seaweed etc. It is amazing how much sand your kite can collect, especially if it is wet when you pack up.

If possible a freshwater rinse usually removes most debris.

I rinse any pulleys, wait until dry, then carefully apply silicone dry lube spray to keep them working.

I rinse & dry my bar & lines as often as I can as sand can abrade your lines.

Maybe we will see you at Parham on the next good wind & tide

regards
fossil


thanks mate... I bought a 10m Cabrinha Switchblade... I'm struggling with the rinsing part as I don't have enough space where I live... I could leave the lines outside and rinse it... I went to largs bay yesterday, because of my rookie condition :P I had a long walk back to my bag so the kite was pretty much dry when I put it away in the bag. However it was quite sandy... Today I took it out and brush most of the sand and put it back in the bag. I might go this weekend again weather permitted... Do you guys think it would be ok if I leave the kite as it is for a week or maybe two, or should I find a place during the week where I could rinse it?
sbray
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13 Feb 2012 3:01pm
GJOchoa said...

Hi there!!! I had my first session with my new kite :D swallowed a lot of water,


We have found that if you buy a "camelback" (no...not a camel toe ) or similar water carrier it can help when you cop a smackdown and get that nose full of seawater, which unconvieniently shoots to the back of your throat when you look back up at your kite.

A gob full of fresh water rinse is nice.

Keep in mind that wearing the extra gear is probably not good as you progess into tricks etc.

Cheers
Fossil
sbray
sbray
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13 Feb 2012 3:05pm
GJOchoa said...
Do you guys think it would be ok if I leave the kite as it is for a week or maybe two, or should I find a place during the week where I could rinse it?


Should be fine.

Cabs are a good first Kite. We have 3 in the family now.
what year Switchy?

Fossil
BurkeyBoy
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13 Feb 2012 3:03pm
sbray said...

GJOchoa said...
Do you guys think it would be ok if I leave the kite as it is for a week or maybe two, or should I find a place during the week where I could rinse it?


As long as your kite is dry, leaving it sandy for a while won't be a problem. I also wash out my bar and lines, harness and board each time. Don't dry your gear on the clothes line outside, the sun isn't very nice to them. I rinse everything and hang in the garage. If I'm feeling really conscientious I even use the compressor on my pulleys and bar and lines. That blast of air is excellent for pulleys.
GJOchoa
GJOchoa
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13 Feb 2012 3:33pm
sbray said...

GJOchoa said...
Do you guys think it would be ok if I leave the kite as it is for a week or maybe two, or should I find a place during the week where I could rinse it?


Should be fine.

Cabs are a good first Kite. We have 3 in the family now.
what year Switchy?

Fossil


Thanks for the camelbak tip :P 2012... I'm loving it so far... I managed to stand up but struggled with keeping the correct power to stay up, I tried a small figure 8 but didn't work :S I found that I have to play with the bar (up and down, like flying kite when I was a kid) a little bit in order to make the kite react faster to steering sometimes. Is that usual??

GJOchoa
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13 Feb 2012 3:36pm
BurkeyBoy said...


As long as your kite is dry, leaving it sandy for a while won't be a problem. I also wash out my bar and lines, harness and board each time. Don't dry your gear on the clothes line outside, the sun isn't very nice to them. I rinse everything and hang in the garage. If I'm feeling really conscientious I even use the compressor on my pulleys and bar and lines. That blast of air is excellent for pulleys.



Thanks mate... I just followed your advice and unpacked my kite and packed it again with the front lines hanging outside the bag, right now I'm rinsing them and then I would let them dry... Thanks heaps for the help guys!!!
BurkeyBoy
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13 Feb 2012 3:07pm
It's not unusual to work the kite in order to maintain momentum. Have a look around, are others working it also? As your technique improves you'll find that sweet spot and will start to head upwind. If the wind it decent and you're still having to work it, maybe you're trying too hard to carve across or upwind? Make sure you start by heading downwind a bit to gain speed, try and park the kite at 45ish, then work on edging.
GJOchoa
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13 Feb 2012 3:38pm
Is it normal to have a little bit of a sore neck?? mine is killing me... I spent 2 hours and something floating and getting up... I guess the soreness is due to the fact that I was floating most of the time looking up at my kite??
BurkeyBoy
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13 Feb 2012 3:29pm
GJOchoa said...

Is it normal to have a little bit of a sore neck?? mine is killing me... I spent 2 hours and something floating and getting up... I guess the soreness is due to the fact that I was floating most of the time looking up at my kite??


Yeah that's fine. You're suddenly using muscles in ways you haven't before. In a little while the soreness will come from whiplash when you start spending more time on the board but then quickly get yanked off it. Then the soreness will come from trying jumps and tricks and the inevitable hard landings. It's all a good kind of soreness though Better than being sore after running a marathon for instance.
Heelside
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13 Feb 2012 10:14pm
Hi GJOchoa,from what i have read of read on this thread all the tips are spot on.With the brush i use one from a brush from a dust pan and brushset that you get from your local supermarket ect.As SpawnofFossl said just make sure its soft as there is a big difference in some of them.i never head to the beach without one :)
I hope you enjoy kiting and stick with it
Cheers Ray
thedrip
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14 Feb 2012 1:05am
My world sucks. I wish I had the chance to get my kite wet and dirty. Locally there never seems to be enough wind, and further south don't seem like good spots to learn. I have no idea where to go in Augusta.

I want your problems.
SpaceCoyote
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14 Feb 2012 8:53am
I never rinse my kites. Unless it rains :)

I always make sure I pack away sand free and dry. If not possible then the first chance I get is dry out the kite and shake off all the sand.

I always rinse my bar and lines in fresh water and dry it out. Pay particular attention to your QR, cleat, pullies etc. You want to make sure they are sand free and operating correctly. As far as wettie and harness are concerned I give them a rinse once every month or so.

I think leaving your kites in a hot car or sitting on the beach flapping in the wind produces a lot more wear than not rinsing it.
Gorgo
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14 Feb 2012 12:01pm
Rule 1 of everything, but especially kiteboarding, is keep it simple.

Don't wash your kite. Rinse it in seawater from time to time (which will happen through riding anyway). Keep it clean. Let it dry. Knock the sand off. Pack it up. If you're going to use it the next day then it doesn't really matter if it's a little bit damp.

Wettie, harness, lines etc will probably live in a plastic tub. Rinse them in fresh water and hang to dry in the shade.

My two main care aids are:

- drying frame made of 50mm plastic pipe hanging from my garage roof. It's just a simple rectangle made from a length of pipe and 4 L joints and a couple of bits of nylon rope. Wetsuits live on it. Towels, damp kites etc get thrown over it.

- car chamois. Good for wiping down the dacron parts of the kite, drying off the board etc
dusta
dusta
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14 Feb 2012 10:56am
i never wash my kite . let it dry on the beach , pack it up sand and all and put it away until i use it next . 3 years on and the kite looks fine . Other kite i must have let some dew on it when i unpacked it at home to repack it and the kite is stained but meh it still flies exactly the same .


Not sure why people go to anal lengths to maintain their kites .

Harness and lines get washed in freshwater and left outside in the sun for a few days and are still going strong .
GJOchoa
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SA
108 posts
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14 Feb 2012 1:38pm
Thanks for the tips guys...
Yep like I said my main issue is rinsing the kite with fresh water as I don't have space for that, or probably the neighbours would complain :P What I did is brush the sand (most of it) and packed the kite with the lines outside and rinsed them... Bar and lines, harness, etc were rinsed with fresh water and dried under shade...
GJOchoa
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SA
108 posts
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14 Feb 2012 1:42pm
thedrip said...

My world sucks. I wish I had the chance to get my kite wet and dirty. Locally there never seems to be enough wind, and further south don't seem like good spots to learn. I have no idea where to go in Augusta.

I want your problems.


Come down to adelaide mate :D
Gorgo
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14 Feb 2012 2:22pm
That bit about leaving the bridles out and washing the pulleys, that's pointless. There's nothing there that needs washing.

Just check and clear the pulleys before each launch. Pinch the line tight around the pulley then work it back and forth so you can see the pulley is turning freely. Knock any loose sand off.

If it's all sandy then you might want to swoosh each side of the kite in the water as you're riding. Make sure you're well clear of the beach and other riders and you can relaunch comfortably where you do the swoosh.

I like to count stuff when I'm setting up. 70-75 pumps into my 10m. 90-100 into my 13m (followed by the squeeze and "ping" flick with the finger.) 7 strut clips to close. 6 pulleys to check.

All the checks are mindless and easy to do and cross check each other one way pr another. It means I can be sure I have done everything that needs doing and I don't have to think about it or waste time fiddling about with gear. I get into the water much faster than other people at my beach.
BurkeyBoy
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14 Feb 2012 1:31pm
Gorgo said...

That bit about leaving the bridles out and washing the pulleys, that's pointless. There's nothing there that needs washing.

Just check and clear the pulleys before each launch. Pinch the line tight around the pulley then work it back and forth so you can see the pulley is turning freely. Knock any loose sand off.


My Ronstan pulleys have stainless bearings and washing out any salt and sand and running them along the lines keeps them running free. Winds here don't allow me to kite every day and often it can be a week or more between sessions. If you want to leave your pulleys caked up in that time, your choice. The little plastic pulleys close the the leading edge don't need the same sort of care, there are no bearings, I just run through occasionally.
Saffer
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14 Feb 2012 2:34pm
My kites and I are very close. After every session, we have a nice bubble bath together where I clean them with soap. After the bath, I hand dry them and then moisturise them with L'oreal anti-aging cream. The L'oreal box says it will help them look younger. The kite canopy is so soft to touch after the moisturising that sometimes I just lie in front of the TV software stroking them while we cuddle and watching kiting videos together.
BurkeyBoy
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14 Feb 2012 3:46pm
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