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Skin86
Skin86
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11 posts
10 Jun 2011 9:43pm
Concidering practicing for a deep water kite launching from a tinnie in the gulf, QLD. has anyone who had kited before got any pointers? it is a large boat with pleanty of room to hokd a kite.
woodys
woodys
WA
218 posts
WA, 218 posts
10 Jun 2011 10:28pm
Some of the 'accredited' teaching programs round the world teach deep water boat launch with student in the water > kite in the boat.
This is absolute garbage.
Its extremely kite unfriendly considering the knobs & whistles that make up boat hardware and fittings.
Its extremely line unfriendly getting the boat safely to a crosswind launch position.
But most concerning is the no. & extent of dangers it can present to the kiter.
The most probable problem being the necessary certainty that the only object of danger - the boat - will be in a position which is exactly where the kiter may end up - at high speed - if the launch goes wrong. This is esp true in the very likely event that the launch ends up being a hot launch from a boat which is directly downwind. The boat will always drift downwind much faster than the kiter in the water.

The ONLY reasonable method is as per a standard drift launch:
- Rig the kite to bar & lines on shore with all the normal checks.
- Wrap up the deflated, pre-rigged kite with lines still attached.
- Using a high tech 'turbo launcher' or the less sophisticated; but equally effective; lines in a bucket, condense your lines from the bar end towards the kite.
- Now the whole kit is all nicely compact for travelling.
- In neutral or motor-off allow the boat to drift while launching.
- Pump the kite on the downwind side of the boat.
- Position the kiter with bar etc. to allow for safe departure from the boat regardless of what goes down (or more particularly up) once the kite is free.
- Release the kite, LE down, and feed out lines as it drifts downwind.
- Kiter checks lines and harness connection etc once the kite lines are fully extended.
- Kiter enters the water and drifts off a safe distance.
- When safe the boat motors though an upwind half circle to oversee the launch from a position outside the 'kill zone'.

IMO this method is not just 'best practice' but 'only practice'.

I would be interested in hearing of other safe methods if they exist.
woodys
woodys
WA
218 posts
WA, 218 posts
10 Jun 2011 11:32pm
Considering how important I believe this issue is I posted it as a 'new topic' in the 'general forum'.

Good question skin86.
Skin86
Skin86
11 posts
11 posts
12 Jun 2011 9:04pm
hay thnks heaps for the info also by the way as i am a noob can u tell me where u posted the new coment thing on the general forum, also any videos that you may have or know of showing what you described would be sweet
Paradox
Paradox
QLD
1326 posts
QLD, 1326 posts
14 Jun 2011 1:48pm
Woody's method works but there is still the chance of tangles involved in releasing the kite to drift. I would certainly agree that launching the kite from the boat is not safe nor the best way.

One effective variation I have performed is below. It does depend on a helper and being in anchorable depth, but then you should always have a spotter on the boat anyway.

pre-rig and wind your lines back up to your kite. Have just your struts inflated so you can roll the tips in.

Place your bar under your kite from the LE to just beyond the trailing edge and then roll the wingtips in. Place your bar in the middle and secure the rolled up kite with your harness (bar underneath). This process helps prevent the otherwise very high chance of passing the bar under a line or bridle. You can use a spare carabina hooked through your pump loop on the centre of the LE to run all the lines through and keep lines tidy. Simple string works as well provided you can undo it easily when needed.

Effectively this has your kite rolled up and all lines going from attachment points to the carabina on your LE pump loop, then along the back of the kite to the trailing edge then around and up into the kite where the bar is held snugly by the harness.

Inflate on the boat once anchored and keep the bar under and behind the kite.

One helper should then swim the kite sideways from the boat while the rider unwinds the line from the bar. Generally it is not overly difficult to do this. The helper should easily be able to hold the kite at the edge of the window whilst the rider hooks in and ensures no tangles in the line.

Helper removes carabina and launch is then as per normal.

We have launched up to 4 kiters in 25kts from a 14ft boat like this. It is important to alternate swimmers though as it is tiring if doing it more than once.
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