Hi

The vast majority of blind, wrap and pass tricks that require slack always say to have kite at 45.

you usually load and pop then yank your front hand down a bit harder then you do your back hand, but still pulling bar into your hip.
at same time the kite goes from 45 to just above water height giving you slack. How agressive are you guys yanking with your front hand? Do you have back hand center bar front at very edge of bar?

Im haveing a hard time getting it done properly. If i have the kite below 45 and steer it down i seem to get less slack. The kite has less distance to stall so shouldnt i be getting more slack and more height if my kites above 45? Greater stall time?

But then my **** seems to be a bit lunch looking. Seems to stay high and makes passing bar impossible.

Just wondering exactly what kite angle you guys are using for all your blinds wraps and pass tricks.

Also how much are you rideing downwind before unhooking and loading up?

Are you going directly down wind then having a bit of a progressive edge then loading and releaseing or are you more or less just rideing across wind (not upwind) and doing it all in one? Its difficult to see exactly what angle the tutorial videos are doing in comparison to the wind direction.

These are a couple issues i am unsure of tho i feel theyre maybe something more im simply not aware of.

Did anyone have a progression that wasnt do everything to blind then everything to wrapped then start air passing?

i was landing some passes years ago without following a slow progression. but im happily going back to basics and want to learn properly with correct form this time round.

Would also like to hear any little realisation moments you had when learning handlepasses
Thank you

Ive found these useful but im hoping to hear from peoples personal experiences.

Theres often silly little things that are unique to people. That wont wo covered in videos.

Bit like now when i go for a big jump almost as big as gillys i actually dont have the bar pulled all the way in when steering the kite to 12. I have it about mid way that way im not choking the kite having the bar out actually lets the kite fly fast to edge of the wind window.

Then of course its pull it in and keep it in (remembering to have trimmed kite to not stall with bar all the way in)

So stuff like that gilly would be nice :D say gday to "naish gary"and his best customer lance for me. I almost wish i was there for when that went down. People sail past me on way to port douglas and tell me all about the craziness that is the gc kite scene

But im stuck here on my island in 20 to 30 knots for the winter ill swing by summer with the rest of the grey nomads when we migrate south.

I think i might be able to jump as high as you now.

As for the f one gear if they have a pure c direct connected 5 or 6 line kite with a decent bar ill give it a go

Hey causehecan
what kite are you using?

juicerider said..
Hey causehecan
what kite are you using?

Chaoses c4s and vegases pretty keen to get my hands on some fuels and torches tho even a airrush razor

Thanks juicerider i havent actually been visualising the kite slacking at edge of wind window cant wait to give it a go. Ive just been doing everything as i normally would except diving kite down hard for slack without paying much attention to where in the wind window it actually is.

Thanks

Hey mate, not sure if what in writing has already been covered but can't be bothered reading the other comments

. Don't get caught chasing "slack". I spent years chasing the "slack", and honestly I did t even know what I was looking for.

The key to those tricks is timing. pop at the right time, and pulling the bar at the right time.

Pulling on the bar is the most important. For years I was doing it wrong and for that it's wrecked my shoulders.
Make sure your pulling in hard and DOWN to your hip, by pulling down your bar won't be ripped out on of your hand on the landing.

Split the bar with your index finger and middle finger.

good luck.

causehecan said..
Ive been trying to get use to the finger split but its so damn weird.

Ill work on the down emphasis aswell.

.. With your pulling in timeing and wrecking your shoulders/arms when was least damageing? was it noticeable? Would you describe the least painful pulling of bar into hips as beggining middle or end timing wise?

Bit of a word soup lets try that again.

Was it least damageing to rotor cuff/arms to pull bar into hips too early or too late ?

For years I wasn't pulling the bar down, so when I rotate, the bar was too far away. I tore my labrum, same at Ewan, pastors and countless other people.