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TheWolf
TheWolf
SA
247 posts
SA, 247 posts
23 Jan 2013 5:36pm
Hi,
I cannot for the life of me get my feet into the footstraps. I can't reach that far. I have tried at home, in the water without my kite and with my kite and I simply can't do it. By the time I wriggle and writhe into a position to get into the straps I have been spun around by the kite and cannot launch.
I am quite a tall guy and I don't have a gut. I must just may have either long legs, or short arms. I searched the net, but few places even mention the hight of the handle off the face of the board.

Surely I'm not the only person who as ever had this trouble?
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
23 Jan 2013 3:17pm
Walk into the water knee deep line up board in the direction you want to go keep kite at 12 then step on board to sink it, wriggle your feet into straps, then sit down in water to begin your start, also a small piece of rope or cord on your grab handle will help in.deeper water
TheWolf
TheWolf
SA
247 posts
SA, 247 posts
24 Jan 2013 12:15am
cauncy said...
Walk into the water knee deep line up board in the direction you want to go keep kite at 12 then step on board to sink it,


Cheers mate
I'll try that next time I go out
nigelw2
nigelw2
VIC
237 posts
VIC, 237 posts
24 Jan 2013 9:09am
Maybe your straps are a bit to tight!
Feet should slide straight in.
Gateman
Gateman
QLD
409 posts
QLD, 409 posts
24 Jan 2013 8:41am
Hey Wolf
Check out another very recent post for some advice about getting on the board:
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/Newbies-Tips-Tricks/Almost-but-not-quite/
Ditto: straps might be too tight
Also, if you can bend your knees, go down on your haunches (feet under your bottom) and touch the floor between your feet with one hand then you should be able to reach the handle. This is almost the body position you would start from (but you'd be floating on your back instead of standing in your living room)
Keep practising, good luck
Peterdj
Peterdj
VIC
139 posts
VIC, 139 posts
24 Jan 2013 12:07pm
TheWolf said...

Hi,
I cannot for the life of me get my feet into the footstraps. I can't reach that far. I have tried at home, in the water without my kite and with my kite and I simply can't do it. By the time I wriggle and writhe into a position to get into the straps I have been spun around by the kite and cannot launch.
I am quite a tall guy and I don't have a gut. I must just may have either long legs, or short arms. I searched the net, but few places even mention the hight of the handle off the face of the board.

Surely I'm not the only person who as ever had this trouble?


Ah yes , this one is close to my heart
I asked my instructor why the water we were in was too deep to do that. His answer was . "if you get slammed, i dont want you hitting the bottom and breaking your arm or dislocating your shoulder", fair enough.

Also if i can do it in deeper water and when i finaly do get up and im out in deeper water i will be able to get back on and not have to drag myself back in.

IanR
IanR
NSW
1360 posts
NSW, 1360 posts
24 Jan 2013 12:35pm
Don't use the Hanle to get into the foot straps.
The back foot strap is a better place to hold the board.
If going left hold the right strap in your right hand place your left foot in its strap, get it snug then let go of the board and use your left foot to control the board while you put your right foot in.if you need to snug the right foot in grab the tail or right end of the board. Other way around if going right
Gateman
Gateman
QLD
409 posts
QLD, 409 posts
24 Jan 2013 1:19pm
I wrote this in the other post I mentioned above:


This gets easier, the most crucial time is while you have one foot in the strap and the other strap in your hand, this will cause you to rotate. It sounds like you carry the board in your right hand, get your left toes in the foot strap and immediately push the board away from you with your right hand to get your right foot on the board. It doesn't matter at this stage if your feet are all the way in, what is more important is that your board is "square" to the wind so you do not start rotating.

Once both feet are on the board, the pressure of the water pushing on the board as you drift downwind will allow you to wriggle both feet securely into the foot straps, you could also use a hand on the handle to help.


I found using Ian's method caused me to rotate (although one arm paddle turns you around again)
Many ways to skin a cat and not one solution or method works for everyone.
BTW I have also used Cauncy method of standing on the board and this worked well for me but you have to nail this water start if you ever want to kite in anything deeper than waist deep.
Persistance, you will get it
IanR
IanR
NSW
1360 posts
NSW, 1360 posts
24 Jan 2013 8:05pm
Hi Gateman
I suppose that after 12 years of kiting these thing have become second nature and I may have oversimplified.
I try and anticipate the rotational drift when I put the board on flying the kite a little to the left of the zenith when trying to put my left foot in and then moving it a little right of the zenith as I put my right foot in
There is also a better way to control rotation than the one hand paddle
Keep the kite still and at the zenith, and the bar horizontal to the horizon but push it towards the side that is going upwind this side will start to rotate downwind. This way you can get the board into the "square"position quite quickly
All lines should remain verticle but the line running from chicken loop to the center of the bar wil be running at an angle from your perspective.
I'm surprised this is not being covered in lessons
Jasonlk321
Jasonlk321
NSW
57 posts
NSW, 57 posts
24 Jan 2013 8:22pm
Hi,

Had a the same issue. But you will eventually do it with your eyes closed;

First , make sure footstraps are fairly loose around your feet. Looser the better. Once you master this task you can tighten them as you progress.

Second, kite should be at 12.00 above you & sheeted in a stable position. Make sure right hand is holding dead center of bar. Try & take your eye off the kite & concentrate on the board.

Third, do not use board handle at any stage. Just grab left footstrap (if right footed) with left hand , hold the board horizontally , line right footstrap up the right foot & just slide it straight in. Use this foot to stabilize board & slide left foot straight. May need to wriggle feet a bit to get feet comfortable in straps. Bring kite down a bit to put pressure on board to make sure feet feel good against pads.


This stage was very frustrating for me, but once I really loosened the footstraps & stopped holding handle everything just came together.

Gateman
Gateman
QLD
409 posts
QLD, 409 posts
25 Jan 2013 9:48am
IanR said...
Hi Gateman
I suppose that after 12 years of kiting these thing have become second nature and I may have oversimplified.
I try and anticipate the rotational drift when I put the board on flying the kite a little to the left of the zenith when trying to put my left foot in and then moving it a little right of the zenith as I put my right foot in
There is also a better way to control rotation than the one hand paddle
Keep the kite still and at the zenith, and the bar horizontal to the horizon but push it towards the side that is going upwind this side will start to rotate downwind. This way you can get the board into the "square"position quite quickly
All lines should remain verticle but the line running from chicken loop to the center of the bar wil be running at an angle from your perspective.
I'm surprised this is not being covered in lessons



That's a great tip Ian, thanks.
I guess I put my board on without thinking about it now but I'm going try rotating myself with your method next time I'm out. Sure it will come in very handy, all new skills are welcome.
Cheers
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