Help the new ones on your beach

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tomvonoslo
tomvonoslo
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4 May 2013 4:31pm
yesterday arvo at a central Melbourne beach: extremely gusty northerly at 28 to 40+ knots, a few guys out on 6, 7 and 8s. That direction is cross offshore, almost no wind in the launching area, and you should be quite advanced to give it a go as next stop in case of problems would be Frankston 20 miles away.
I am then being asked to help launch a guy´s kite. He is just pumping up. It is a 12m, his only kite. First time on that beach. Started kiting 4 mths ago. Hadnt checked the forecast (which had issued gale force wind warnings for VIC) or current readings of local weather stations. Didnt know the nasty submerged reef downwind. No helmet.
Another guy and I talked him out of it and he was happy for it. Then more squalls came through and the sand on the beach started flying.
This has certainly been discussed extensively. Just as a reminder that we need to keep an eye out for those who are new to the beach and to the sport and help them make the right decisions. Cheers
Kazan
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4 May 2013 7:23pm
+1
puppetonastring
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5 May 2013 3:06pm
Esp in winter.
If you know whats what on the day & you see others that may not - a friendly heads up is every kiters responsibiity.
If we can keep this friendly cooperation & openness that has always been a part of our sport happening it can only better for all of us.
WeirdEd
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6 May 2013 12:01pm
Good one, Tom! The beach you mention is Brighton and it can't be stressed enough that this is a risky spot in a northerly. I was there the same day and my 8m RPM just fell out of the sky after it had been launched due to the spotty wind on the beach.
Later I helped one guy who had lost his board and was drifting south bodydragging in those super gusty conditions.
If you are too far out and lose your board, tangle you kite or break a line, you are pretty much farked and will have to act quickly to reach land before you drift out into the bay. On the way in there is the reef and its markers you'll have to avoid. Also, don't forget that you will wear out a lot quicker in cold water if you spend too much time trying to recover your stuff before making the call to abandon your gear.
SaltySinus
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6 May 2013 12:09pm
Good on you boyz.

Yep Brighton has a dead spot towards the surf life saving club and beyond (south where the huts are, which is a no kite zone), which is complemented with lots of rocks just under the surface of the water.

SpaceCoyote
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6 May 2013 1:10pm
I was at Brighton about a month ago when a guy asked me for a launch. Brand new Cabrinha Vector, pumped up on the beach, but resting upside down (rather than leading edge down) with a heap of sand inside the kite. Interesting...

I grabbed his kite and his lines didn't look right. He had fronts connected to wingtips and rears connected to the bridal. I explained to him what he did wrong and asked him to reset and grab me when he is ready.

5 mins later he comes over ready for another go. This time I thought I better check the lines properly. Lucky I did. He did not have the little line extensions that cabrinha lines come with and he just came up with his own knots to attach the lines to the kite. They would have come apart under load for sure.

We got it all sorted (extensions were in a bag) and he finally went out to do some body dragging.

turns out he had some lessons but the instructors never showed him how to set up. He got a new kite as part of a package from one of the local shops but didnt even bother to read the manual.

Oh yeah, and he was wearing his harness upside down too :D

When you see someone that looks like a beginner always make sure they have the right equipment for the conditions. Check their lines before launching too. Although had this guy not mixed up lines in the first place I never would have thought to check how the lines are attached to the kite and it all could have ended very badly.

Kazan
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6 May 2013 2:13pm
SpaceCoyote said...
turns out he had some lessons but the instructors never showed him how to set up. He got a new kite as part of a package from one of the local shops but didnt even bother to read the manual.


There a lot of cowboys coming into the industry.

The stretch from Brighton to StKilda needs IKA patrolling IMO. Altona... hmm there should not be ANY instructing going on there.
SaltySinus
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6 May 2013 2:21pm
Aye, Altona is a feisty place alright. Ignoring the debris, that little sand island over to the west would be fine to launch/land/learn from...

tomvonoslo
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9 May 2013 3:23pm
WeirdE you ar equite right- I can confirm my little episode happened at Brighton. The reason I kept it neutral was not to embarrass anyone who might read this was more of a learning point type of thing. With that being said, it could happen anywhere.
That northerly was BTW one of the nastier ones, really really gusty, a bit unusual. Reg making the call to swim to safety, that is another decision which is hard to make for newbies. They might only own that one kite, some are really young and may have worked their butts off to buy that gear. So they better hold on to it as long as possible when drifting out at sea. Offshore winds do not produce waves or white caps before fare out to sea so the water looks very calm from the beach. Us older guys and those amons us who have windsurfed during a lifetime know all about those conditions.

SpaceCoyote, your story is even more frightening, great job you did there helping out that bloke! That malattaching of lines never even struck me could happen as most kites have the kookproofs. But if there is a theoretical possibility these errors sooner or later will be made by an unexperienced kiter. Even if he has seen the seller in the shop set up the kite once. Murphy?s law applies to kitesurfing, I think big time.
Gorgo
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9 May 2013 4:06pm
The reef at Brighton is a good thing in a northerly. It's a kook catcher. It's where you end up if you can't handle the conditions ... and you're lucky.

You just need to wear booties so you can walk on the reef without damaging your feet.

What I have trouble understanding is how can you not know that Brighton is difficult in a northerly? You're standing on the beach. Bullet gusts are pounding into the back of your head and blasting straight offshore. Kites are dropping out of the sky. One second it is calm and peaceful. The next second desert storm. Guys are having trouble getting on or off the beach. What process of logic is it that makes people think, "I'm a newbie, I'll go out here. I'll put up my crap 12m C kite." We had a very simple mechanism to avoid doing stupid stuff. It was called fear.
Peterc150
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10 May 2013 12:12pm
I think the problem is that some newcomers don't know what they don't know.

One spanking at Brighton in northerly and a kite wrecked on the reef - or headed to Rye across the Bay, and a lost board, would be a signficant learning experience.

However, prevention is much better than cure.

Well done tomvonoslo, you saved that person from an epic. We all need to keep our eyes out and intervene if/when required in similar situations.
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