How often would you perform a self rescue

> 10 years ago
Reply
Register to post, see what you've read, and subscribe to topics.
Nicko82
Nicko82
WA
54 posts
WA, 54 posts
3 Mar 2012 4:50pm
I have been watching you tube and trying to get a grasp on self rescue.

Is it that hard? Once we get wind again I'm going to have a go at it but is it easy to stuff up? I have just done my 3rd lesson and feel that its time to get it sorted before I unleash myself at my local spot. I have done some reading through the forums and it seems like a basic skill.

I'm riding a airush kite and understand how to use the safety systems.. I just need to get it done.
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
3 Mar 2012 5:26pm
your instructor should be teaching you the self rescue before you go in the water,having a look on a video will help but you should be practicing it on the water,never had to do it but it could save you one day,make sure your familiar with it before you hit the water
NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
WA, 1094 posts
3 Mar 2012 5:50pm
In three years probably about five times. Full pack down about half. Lost my kite completely four times in the last year aswell, twice accidentally twice released.

Stuff happens get the skills down pat just in case, gone out to many people in trouble this year and asked, do you know how to self rescue? With no as the response. If you can't be self sufficient you shouldn't kite.reliance on others is a backup only as they aren't always there or watching.
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
1615 posts
WA, 1615 posts
3 Mar 2012 8:33pm
The question is not how often will you have to do it but more do you know how to do it when you'll get in trouble, because you WILL get into some kind of trouble, sooner or later. My history with Self-rescues is about just the same as NickT.

I recommend reading these:

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/Newbies-Tips-Tricks/Self-Rescue-3/?SearchTerms=self-rescue

and the post I made in this one:

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Self-rescue-problem/?SearchTerms=self-rescue

It's disappointing to see that after 3 lessons you haven't been able to practice a self-rescue in a deep-water scenario. This is an essential skill for you own safety and independence and it is irresponsible for any school to skip this. Self-rescue should be taught on the beach in the first lesson and practiced in the water the very first time you enter the water, sometimes it will take more than 1 attempt to get you comfortable with it.

Nonetheless, It's a great thing that you figured out yourself that it "needs to be done" at some stage, good on you.
austin
austin
671 posts
671 posts
4 Mar 2012 7:16pm
up north probally on a month or so, (% of time riding is much higher!)

in perth only once the kite is in 2 from winter shore dump

Mikedobee
Mikedobee
NSW
331 posts
NSW, 331 posts
4 Mar 2012 11:47pm
Whenever that happens it's really really crappy.

Can't relaunch the kite, or the wind has simply died off. I am 400 meters off-shore. It's choppy as hell. I am trying to swim but the lines get all tangled up around me. What the hell do I do?

I really want to see someone in choppy conditions deflating a kite and wrapping it in order to create a floating device. I reckon it's not an easy job.

That's why I tend to stay away from the open ocean as much as I can.
NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
WA, 1094 posts
5 Mar 2012 9:29am
You can still pack down when it's choppy, just takes longer. Where I kite it gets choppier the more onshore it is, therefore the choppier the more wind assisted.
Davereid
Davereid
98 posts
98 posts
5 Mar 2012 3:03pm
Mikedobee said...

Whenever that happens it's really really crappy.

Can't relaunch the kite, or the wind has simply died off. I am 400 meters off-shore. It's choppy as hell. I am trying to swim but the lines get all tangled up around me. What the hell do I do?

I really want to see someone in choppy conditions deflating a kite and wrapping it in order to create a floating device. I reckon it's not an easy job.

That's why I tend to stay away from the open ocean as much as I can.



your lines get tangled around you? all the self rescue vids i have seen tell u how to avoid this? Dont you wrap the lines up around the bar as you get closer to the kite on the way in???

Anyhoo, how many times does it happen? well this season i have had to do it 2x. First time was inverted kite (north 5 line) and was ****ting myself but kept calm (and chived on) and just went through the motions.

the second time was cause i fkd up :P and just a shame to have to do it but just gradually get back in to the kite and sail it back in, much more controlled and happy with result. took about 10mins from the middle of botany bay to "sail" on the sail back in.

either way - it happens, u should know it. expect it to happen :P
Mikedobee
Mikedobee
NSW
331 posts
NSW, 331 posts
5 Mar 2012 9:49pm
When it happen to me was because someone wrapped his ++++cking lines around my lines (while riding in the middle of Botany Bay) and instead of QR the kite or at least let go of the bar, the mother ====er pulled the bar like crazy in order to create tension in his lines and strangle mine. Which he did. He completely sliced the lines from my 10 meters Rally 2011. So because of the choppy water, the lines were coming towards me and I got wrapped a bit around me, but I kept cool (after shi--ng myself) and swam back to the shore.

That will teach me to kite anywhere close to other kiters.
Davereid
Davereid
98 posts
98 posts
6 Mar 2012 10:30am
thats not good :\ wish everyone was considerate to everyone on the water.
TKC1
TKC1
SA
52 posts
SA, 52 posts
14 Mar 2012 12:07pm
I think self-rescues are a part of kiting and you really do need someone to teach you how to do one safely..

When your kite inverts is a perfect example of something which is out of your control, can happen to kiters at all levels and it is generally a necessity (especially a full inversion on a 5-line kite, as you can tear your kite in half) to do a self-rescue..

Maybe even ask around for an experienced kiter to show you how to do it whilst on the beach, and then give it a go in shallow water to get the hang of it.. I'm sure there would be people from your area on seabreeze who would be more than happy to help you out in exchange for a 6-pack..

TKC :)

Kazan
Kazan
QLD
699 posts
QLD, 699 posts
14 Mar 2012 7:14pm
+1 all of the above.
Your instructor should have taught self rescue to you by now and it's good to practice it early. One good video of this is in the Progression DVDs for beginner. Well worth the purchase, but really nothing beats lessons from competent and qualified instructors. That is worth every cent.
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
14 Mar 2012 8:27pm
Mikedobee said...



I really want to see someone in choppy conditions deflating a kite and wrapping it in order to create a floating device. I reckon it's not an easy job.


I wouldn't recommend deflating the kite to self rescue. Better to wrap up lines and sit/lie on the kite, using it as a sail to get back to shore. Also, you're more visible in the event of the tide taking you places you'd rather not be.

I've self rescued 3 times in 10 years of kiting. You just have to be patient and let the wind, however light, do most of the work. Agreed, it's not always fast progress.

Trying to swim with a rolled up kite is horrible.

If you can get a kind passing kiter to body drag you and your kit in all the better.
terminal
terminal
1421 posts
1421 posts
14 Mar 2012 5:55pm
Sometimes its a kite rescue - ie. you are rescuing the kite when it would be easier for you to just swim ashore.
Sometimes the kite will be a help in rescuing yourself.

In an offshore wind or current, the difference may matter.
general_dude
general_dude
WA
150 posts
WA, 150 posts
21 Mar 2012 9:40pm
Self rescue at least a couple/3/4 of times a season.
Happens to me more in light winds normally - backwinded / inverted / bow tied.

First time it happened wasn't long after my lessons. I just calmly did what the instructor told me and life was good. I reckon it would be pretty scary if I hadn't had good lessons.

Ohh and I had the surf lifesavers come and try to rescue me when I was self rescuing. The guy insisted on towing me even after I waved him away. I ended up with lines around my neck and my board going through my kite. Next time I will be a fair bit more forceful and tell them to just stay away. (I know the meant well, but they I had things well under control - I guess they will get more used to this as time goes by).


calbs
calbs
SA
86 posts
SA, 86 posts
25 Apr 2012 12:59am
i agree with crew saying get instructor to teach you this skill.when i did my lessons i only was run through it on land but even doing that saved me when i had to use it .Wind dropped out on me about 250 -300 mtrs off shore
with your legs dangling in white pointer terretory it all comes back to you pretty quick so i must advise practice this and be confident with it before hitting the water.good luck & enjoy this awsome sport.calbs
QLD, 481 posts
26 Apr 2012 11:31am
Hi guys my advice is you should practice your pack down till its easy and with your own kite ,they are all slightly different .If your not sure go back and see an instructor , (once you can kite properly you should still practice it once a year or you will forget it and every knew kite is slightly different )
Myself I've never lost a kite and I've packed down lots of times in most conditions. If you know what your doing it makes you more confident and makes kiting in all conditions more fun .
We run 3 free clinics on pack down and right of way rules each year but a lot of experienced kiters still aren't sure of it,
Most of us were taught pack down in our lessons but usually by the time were actually kiting we've forgotten it or at least haven't practised it
Have fun
George
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
26 Apr 2012 3:03pm
I agree with most here.
Self Rescue is a basic essential skill which should be taught before you enter the water and it should be the first thing you do on the water. If your instructor has taken you through 2 lessons without you having done at least one successful self rescue Id be looking for a new instructor.
rickwindt
rickwindt
WA
245 posts
WA, 245 posts
26 Apr 2012 11:45pm
take an example out of this video mate!

Please Register, or first...
Topics Subscribe Reply