Is a 7m kite too small ???

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TommyTbar
TommyTbar
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1 posts
4 Feb 2014 2:15am
Hey new kiter here,
Just bought my first set up today, 2014 north rebel 7m and a north 133cm Jamie board and I think my kite is too small, I weigh 63 Kg and during my lessons used a 8 meter core in 17- 22 knot winds, told this to the guy at AKS and told me that the rebel was a more powerful kite so I should stick with the 7, but gut is telling me to return it (haven't used it yet) and get the 8 against his advice, I am moving back to the USA to Michigan and there average wind is around 18 knots on Lake Michigan in the summer, also as it is colder than WA, colder air is denser so that might make a difference, I know your supposed to have a range of kites but after the initial investment cost don't really wanna be buying another for a bit haha, do you think I should stick with it?
Dl33ta
Dl33ta
TAS
463 posts
TAS, 463 posts
4 Feb 2014 10:35am
Ask him for a demo of a 7m before you unpack it. Rebels do have a good bottom end but yeah I'd be making sure first.
Calvin6m
Calvin6m
WA
77 posts
WA, 77 posts
4 Feb 2014 7:45am
I'm 60kg and use a 9 in anything under 24knots
Brohan
Brohan
VIC
528 posts
VIC, 528 posts
4 Feb 2014 10:47am
If you're used to an 8m kite I would probably stick with that, may give you more of a wind range. I don't have any experience with rebals though.
pedleym
pedleym
WA
168 posts
WA, 168 posts
4 Feb 2014 9:27am
in 18knots probably want a 9 or 10
juicerider
juicerider
WA
790 posts
WA, 790 posts
4 Feb 2014 11:28am
Yeah like pedleym says, get the size of kite you will use at home in 18kts which will be a 10.
7 is a good size to have in Perth middle of summer when its 25kts, but will be too small when you get home. We usually have plenty of 18kt days in Perth too but not so many February.
Sure the guys at AKS will change it for you and look after you.
Hope this helps
Peterc150
Peterc150
VIC
710 posts
VIC, 710 posts
4 Feb 2014 4:18pm
I use my 7 Crossbow for wind range 30-40 knots. I weight 86kg.

eezeegowin
eezeegowin
WA
175 posts
WA, 175 posts
4 Feb 2014 9:32pm
In my experience, having a kite slightly too small is harder to learn on than a kite slightly too big. Just make sure that you understand the dynamics of the trim strap so you are not overpowered. Learning to go upwind on an underpowerwed kite is very, very hard. Again, in my experience.
Loftywinds
Loftywinds
QLD
2060 posts
QLD, 2060 posts
5 Feb 2014 8:01am
Took out my wife's 8mt kite out yesterday and I really had to loop it big time just to get going. The winds were around 16 to 19 knots, but these are the tropics where wind strength is somewhat weaker due to the 'weight' of the air. I weigh around 80kg. Most guys out were on 10 to 13 mt kites.
bene313
bene313
WA
1347 posts
WA, 1347 posts
5 Feb 2014 10:40am
Well, if you were getting three kites maybe 6m, 9m, 12m. So if you're getting just one kite I'd go 9m.
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
5 Feb 2014 3:10pm
I'm 64 kg and use 10m in winds 15-20 knots, 8m 18-28 knots. Above or below that I sit and watch.
ActionSportsWA
ActionSportsWA
WA
1007 posts
WA, 1007 posts
5 Feb 2014 12:42pm
TommyTbar said..

Hey new kiter here,
Just bought my first set up today, 2014 north rebel 7m and a north 133cm Jamie board and I think my kite is too small, I weigh 63 Kg and during my lessons used a 8 meter core in 17- 22 knot winds, told this to the guy at AKS and told me that the rebel was a more powerful kite so I should stick with the 7, but gut is telling me to return it (haven't used it yet) and get the 8 against his advice, I am moving back to the USA to Michigan and there average wind is around 18 knots on Lake Michigan in the summer, also as it is colder than WA, colder air is denser so that might make a difference, I know your supposed to have a range of kites but after the initial investment cost don't really wanna be buying another for a bit haha, do you think I should stick with it?


Hi Tommy,

I think you were probably speaking with Todd. If we use the info you provided us, and the graphs for the Rebel, I think you were sized correctly for the circumstances you described. North quote 18-38 knots for a 7m for an 80 kilo rider. As you are just over 60 kilo's, this means you decrease just under two square meters to compensate for your lighter weight (using the formula of 1sqm of canopy per 10kg of bodyweight). This should give you the comparative power of a 9m Rebel which has a wind range of 15-34 knots. Add to that that our wind over most of summer here has been 20-25knots, and also taking into account that you'll be using it in colder more dense winds in Michigan, the sizing was pretty spot on.

If you want to change the kite for an 8m, no probs, just bring the kite in and we'll exchange it provided it hasn't been used. The difference between a 7m and 8m Rebel in terms of wind range is only 2 knots.

To everyone offering advice on this sort of request, please quote what you weigh, what make, model and year of kite you are flying, what size board you ride and where you kite. All these factors make a significant difference to sizing. Kiting in Thailand in 20 knots and Hobart in 20 knots would be a difference in kite size of around 5 square meters. :-)

DM
NitrousOxide
NitrousOxide
NSW
96 posts
NSW, 96 posts
6 Feb 2014 12:59am
I'd change it for a 9m if I were you. Far better to be over rather than under and you're going to miss out on heaps of days on the water
NitrousOxide
NitrousOxide
NSW
96 posts
NSW, 96 posts
6 Feb 2014 1:02am
P.s I'm a hefty 90kg but use my 12 up to 25 knots before going 9. Am yet to find wind I can't hold my 9 down in!!!
AquaPlow
AquaPlow
QLD
1066 posts
QLD, 1066 posts
8 Feb 2014 12:04am
Another angle - as you get more experienced you will find handling the larger kite becomes easier - and most noticeable the sweet spot wind range for you on a given kite expands towards the extremes mentioned by the manufacturer.
You can de-power a larger kite but can not em-power(??) a smaller kite.
Realistically the range of a 7m to an 8m is not that different - but you will be more inclined to go out kiting in the lower wind range than the upper wind range especially when building experience -- so the bigger the lower range is the more opportunity you will have.
Re-sale - it is easier to sell an 8m than a 7m.

So of the 2 U mention go the 8m IMO.. (or demo a DICE!!)

regardless have fun..
Cheers
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