Is it possible to sort out a rolled kite?

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belldiver
belldiver
QLD
171 posts
QLD, 171 posts
19 Mar 2013 6:34pm
Just getting into the sport and my main problem is crashing and surfacing to find the kite has rolled over its lines.

I've got a north rebel and been disconnecting and just putting the weigh on the 5th line. Walk up and connect that other strap to kite and wind up the bar and do the walk of shame as i go in resort lines then head back out.

Just wondering if its possible to sort it out in the water or if thats just the best thing to do. My main concern is the lines around the canopy will rip it>


I was told today when i crash to fall backwards and try to keep tenision on the lines as much as possible to avoid this problem altogether.
NoBS
NoBS
WA
908 posts
WA, 908 posts
19 Mar 2013 5:25pm
This whole 5th line North Rebel for beginners thing IMHO is a load of hot cawk.

So why is it newbs get sold 5th liners and then run into probs when they realise they turn inside out and cause ball aches from the get go??

Rebels are renowned for this and also giving major bo jangles on SR.
Jasonlk321
Jasonlk321
NSW
57 posts
NSW, 57 posts
19 Mar 2013 8:48pm
I have a four line kite but i'm shaw the principle is the same. When you loose control & crash hard one thing that works for me is to totally let go of the bar/steering lines as you're falling before you go under. The momentum of your body falling will put a burst of tension on the centre/flying lines. This action seems to send the kite straight up to 12 o'clock. Once you resurface you should see the kite above you. Grab hold of your bar , sheet in & recover your board or simply restart. This method also works well for me when the kite falls into the water trailing edge first. Let go of the bar , grab hold of the centre lines , give a hard tug & the kite will come straight out the water. Once the kite starts to go up immediately let go of the centre lines , grab hold of bar sheeting in & then steer kite to top of the window. The best way to describe this if you've ever had an Ozone training kite with the bar , you would launch it with one sharp tug or a step back , with trailing edge closest to the ground. It's exactly the same principle but 10m2 bigger. This works for me 80% of the time.
Dl33ta
Dl33ta
TAS
463 posts
TAS, 463 posts
19 Mar 2013 11:30pm
Slack lines is the main reason your kite will fall out of the sky. Unfortunately as a newbie you will be concentrating on a million of things and not many of them involve your kite. You've got two options really, worry about your board and untangle your kite or worry about your kite and collect your board later on. Sometimes it seems like a hard choice but forget the board and always keep that kite going. If it's a tough choice cause you've ponied up for a brand new board, go and buy a cheap second hand board that you don't mind losing, put your number on it and someone will give it back out of sympathy.

If you kite in estuaries or the sea only kite an hour each side of the high/low tide while you start out. Trying to recover yourself let alone a board in a ripping spring tide current is no joke.

With the North 5 lines you need to keep them active, don't think it will just sit up there waiting for you. It will either jag around like a spaz seagull or simply fall out of the sky if there is no line pressure. As you start to put more pieces together you will gain better kite control and it will happen less often. Make sure you read the other posts on self recovery in the mean time, it could save your fingers

To answer your actual question though, in some cases yes but unless you're a fair way from the setup area I would just go in and sort it out.
koshi
koshi
SA
202 posts
SA, 202 posts
20 Mar 2013 7:33am
Hey Bell, its all part of learning, so get use to it, if its not the North kite, it will be another kite, the fact is, this process your going through will heighten your awareness of where your kite is during a crash and youll do whatever it takes to keep that bastard in the air and remember THIS IS WHERE IT WANTS TO BE AND NOT IN THE WATER, so practice, practice, practice, and youll find that when your heading head long into the water during a crash, there will be NOTHING more important to you than keeping that kite in the air, you will look contorted and unrecognizable as a human being, BUT GUESS WHAT?, that thing will still be flying! It WILL become second nature to you.

I have a North 5 liner, Been there, done that.
As per NoBs post, lets all calm down and never discuss this .. ever.. again,

AMEN.
Rodno
Rodno
32 posts
32 posts
21 Mar 2013 7:14pm
Not sure how orthodox thsi is but what I suggest is to grab the centre lines and pull as you fall. This keeps the tensions and the kite won't fall out of the sky. Basically as soon as you feel the kite fall, pull the centre lines to keep it flying.

I guess there is a danger getting your hand wrapped with the lines in exceptional circumstances so exercise with care - but I haven't had the kite roll on me in the last year or so.
belldiver
belldiver
QLD
171 posts
QLD, 171 posts
21 Mar 2013 11:49pm
Cheers fellas for taking the time to answer.
I was probably told that in a lesson and forgot? There is so much to absorb with this sport and sites like this are excellent for spastics like me.
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