Perth wind anomalies...advice needed!

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mike7
mike7
WA
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WA, 10 posts
6 Apr 2013 9:26am
Guys,

The forecast for the Perth metro area this morning looked great so a friend and I went out to Point Walter at 6am to go and practice the fine art of kiting. Upon arriving there was one guy out there (good to meet you Ryan!) but he was a newbie like us. There was no wind at all. I would have thought there'd be heaps of kiters out there, especially after a week of dismal wind. Is there some common knowledge about wind conditions in Perth that everyone else apart from me knows?! Why the awesome forecast and why no wind? Please help!!

Mike



bene313
bene313
WA
1347 posts
WA, 1347 posts
6 Apr 2013 10:10am
The forecast is/was correct.

Wind behaves differently over the sea and over the land. Wind and wave forecasts always account for activity several kilometres out to sea, as this is extremely relevant for many water users (boating, fishing, sailing).

If you want more detailed information regarding wind in certain areas (eg. on the river) you'll need to either learn to read synoptic charts or, use the Bureau's website where you can find very detailed forecasting information.
bene313
bene313
WA
1347 posts
WA, 1347 posts
6 Apr 2013 10:14am
Can I also suggest that most would have woken up, checked the wind, seen it was very light, and gone back to sleep.

You didn't bother checking before heading down to the river?
juicerider
juicerider
WA
790 posts
WA, 790 posts
6 Apr 2013 12:02pm
The forecast was correct and it forecast way to much southerly in it for Point Walter. Even if it was blowing would have been far to gusty with a SE ly. Have a look at what it was doing at Rotto and you can see the forcast was actualy pretty accurate.
Wait till this arvo and head to the coast, you should get a kite there later
BlackPanth3r
BlackPanth3r
WA
21 posts
WA, 21 posts
6 Apr 2013 12:13pm
take every piece of information, especially weather info, with a pinch of salt. sometimes the forecasts are accurate and sometimes way off.

always check, good idea to just walk outside and have a look for yourself.

Damian1242
Damian1242
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
7 Apr 2013 12:00am
@ Mike7... You weren't the only one sucked in by the weather forcast mate, i was down in Safety Bay @ 7:00 this morn thinking there would be wind too! But the experienced kite boarders seem to get it right with the weather predictions.
mike7
mike7
WA
10 posts
WA, 10 posts
8 Apr 2013 11:10pm
Thanks for the responses, especially Ausome's! I did step outside and see that the wind was light but I guess I was hoping it would be blowing harder down at point walter. I live a fair way away from there. I hadn't been kiting for a week prior to that so was insanely keen...didn't even mind the early morning for the slight chance of wind.

Lesson learned!

Mike
Danmurphys
Danmurphys
WA
231 posts
WA, 231 posts
9 Apr 2013 11:20am
As Juicerider said, Pt Walter doesnt work if it has southerlies in it. Works best from E to NE I've found.
beefarmer
beefarmer
WA
328 posts
WA, 328 posts
9 Apr 2013 11:24pm
live to fly and juicerider are right. you need easterlies (not south east, or north east), at pt walter.

I find when going to a new spot, or trying a different wind direction at your local, it can be very handy to check google earth.

look for the distance the wind has to blow over the water (called fetch) before it hits the spot you want to go kiting

you really want a fetch length of over 1 km or so, so the wind can settle. Otherwise it'll be mega gusty. generally. the more fetch, the less gusty.


as to working out how windy it'll be.... im lazy. check seabreeze forecast the day before. if the forecast is good, check seabreeze live wind graphs prior to leaving the house. if the live graph matches the forecast, its probably going to be worth the drive.





sarahlou
sarahlou
WA
14 posts
WA, 14 posts
15 Apr 2013 6:11pm
Wow Mike, there's heaps of great advice on here. Thanks everyone, really helps newbies out there like us.

Like Mike said, we were super keen, did check the forecast in the morning but just wanted to give it a go anyway in case the weatherman was wrong.

We'll have to learn how to read charts I guess.

thanks again
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