Practice in Winter???

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Westernfront
Westernfront
WA
17 posts
WA, 17 posts
14 Jul 2011 10:52pm
Hi I live in WA and finished my last kite lesson about 2 weeks before the weather dropped out and winter has kicked in. Since then there has been 2 days of good weather that Ive seen other kiters out in. Just wondering as a newbie I've been told during winter its ok to practice my kite skills without hitting the water just so I don't lose everyhing I learnt during the last season. Is this advisable or still to dangerous???
Doudou
Doudou
WA
46 posts
WA, 46 posts
15 Jul 2011 2:50am
Be extremely careful on how and when you do that. A french kiter just killed himself a few hours ago because he was practicing his skills with a 6,5m on the beach, in a gusty wind. A gust at 40kn took him away.

So yes, you can indeed practice your skills, but make sure the wind is not too strong or too gusty so you don't scare yourself, and so nothing bad happens (remember, it's not only dangerous for you but also for others)

Whereabouts are you in WA, and what kind/size of kite are you using? if you are between Perth and Rockingham and you go out to practice, just pop me a pm and I'll come if I'm on my days off. I've heard of too many accidents back in France so if I can help reduce the risk... And sometimes around here, there is not enough wind to actually enjoy a real ride, but more than enough to train on your body dragging, or just figures of 8 on the beach.

I used to teach and i'll be more than happy to just come down to the beach give you tips and everything

Cheers
suface2air
suface2air
QLD
701 posts
QLD, 701 posts
15 Jul 2011 11:51am
^^^sound advice and great to see someone is out there to still care for others in need . I generaly go with that if you are on land there is still to much bad things can happen . Get in the water say a spot with at least waist deep and play, water is much softer than land . You can learn lots and wont hurt any one else if it gose pairshape . Dont send kite to 12 fast or you will be lofted .practice water starts or body drag, where wind window is, where ya kite has biggest pull, how much it pulls treat with respect nature can really give ya an ass rapen sometimes , are all the things you could learn just with haven a bit of playing around . happy days and good wind
BurkeyBoy
BurkeyBoy
QLD
549 posts
QLD, 549 posts
15 Jul 2011 5:13pm
If there's enough wind to fly your kite, why wouldn't you be on the water? Is it a water temp issue? I'm in QLD so the water doesn't get too cold, then again, in winter the wind rarely blows.
Doudou
Doudou
WA
46 posts
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
17 Jul 2011 2:59pm
Definitely IN THE WATER. As far from hazards as possible.
Practicing on land is NOT the way to go - esp if its not a seabreeze.
Being in the water can give you lots of time if things turn to sh1t. On land it can be reduced to a split second.
Practice your quick release till its second nature and always make it the conscious second thing on your mind from whatever else ur doing.
Pick your site, your days and watch for squalls. Problem still there that you cant always see them coming.
Doudou
Doudou
WA
46 posts
WA, 46 posts
18 Jul 2011 3:24am
Indeed, defenitely IN the water, sorry I did not mention that earlier, I thought by "hitting the water" you ment getting on the board.

Again, if you want my help, I have a second wetsuit so as long as you wear L and as long as you dont pee in wet suits I can lend it to you when you go down the beach.

In Safety bay you can walk quite a long way out in the water at the end of the sand bench so no need to get a boat or anything.

Be also definitely careful with squales at the moment, a few sighting of GWS around Perth lately!
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
26 Jul 2011 1:45pm
winter is not good time to learn.

get onto windfinder/wind guru or similar and search for stable wind patterns below 20 knots.

as an example thurs/fri on my local spot. www.windfinder.com/forecast/new_plymouth?utm_source=www.windfinder.com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=redirect

take the forcast then check a live weather station for actual readings. if its sub 20 go out.

if you see ANY angry looking clouds upwind heading your way. land your kite before it hits you. Clouds/squalls can bring big changes to the wind. you don't want to be out in those conditions when you are learning.

But if the wind pattern looks stable and there no funny looking stuff on the horizon go for in.
Doudou
Doudou
WA
46 posts
WA, 46 posts
26 Jul 2011 5:18pm
Plummet said...

winter is not good time to learn.

get onto windfinder/wind guru or similar and search for stable wind patterns below 20 knots.

as an example thurs/fri on my local spot. www.windfinder.com/forecast/new_plymouth?utm_source=www.windfinder.com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=redirect

take the forcast then check a live weather station for actual readings. if its sub 20 go out.

if you see ANY angry looking clouds upwind heading your way. land your kite before it hits you. Clouds/squalls can bring big changes to the wind. you don't want to be out in those conditions when you are learning.

But if the wind pattern looks stable and there no funny looking stuff on the horizon go for in.


As I was told by and old sailor, Clouds are usually as bad as they look. Scary cloud--> stay away!
Really good point here, about landing as soon as you can if you see a scary cloud coming. a young french rider died last november because he came back on shore 1 or 2 minutes after everybody, and it was too late (he also did not have a hand on the release, which you should always have when landing and launching in nasty conditions, or conditions that might become nasty.)
Always be prepared for the worst and the risk of something serious happening to you will be minimal
jas73
jas73
QLD
796 posts
QLD, 796 posts
26 Jul 2011 9:42pm
This is my third winter kiting and in the last three weeks i have skipped going out because of either dodgy conditions or wind gust's above the wind range of my gear. No session is worth risking your safety for. No matter what anyone says
Westernfront
Westernfront
WA
17 posts
WA, 17 posts
30 Jul 2011 1:37pm
Thanks for the advice guys and the time it took to give it, think I'll have to pick my conditions very carefully. Doudou if its ok I'll be in touch would be great to go for a bit of a kite if you have time I'm currently on a 9m.
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