Self Rescue

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KiwiDave
KiwiDave
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16 Oct 2015 1:22pm
After 4 months on the bench with Tennis elbow I went out in just 12 knots (desperation). I did remarkably well though there was a walk of shame between rides. The wind dropped, kite fell out of the sky and I had to self rescue. It is the first time I have done this post lessons and I learned a lot (i.e. I did lots wrong).

Perhaps the single most destructive element was trying to manage my board during the process.

Does anyone use some kind of leash that they use only during a self rescue or difficult water re-launch to tow the board behind? I know leash is a dirty word during kiting but what about during a light wind self rescue?

4XL
4XL
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4XL 4XL
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16 Oct 2015 2:50pm
U will find this has been covered b4. . . . Imho stay unattached as any leash presents a safety problem. . . . . In self rescue situation u will move faster than the board anyways . . . . . I always only kite side shore do the board will wash up at some point. . . . Getting ur kite and self safe to shore more important

2 cents
fingerbone
fingerbone
NSW
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16 Oct 2015 6:24pm
I spose you could connect your leash to the board to keep it near
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
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16 Oct 2015 4:24pm
Hi KiwiDave

If you struggle to self-rescue with a board in 12 knots you simply need more practice and/or a better technique, firstly without the board. You are probably trying to wrap your lines which is a difficult task on it's own. If I had to wrap my lines in low winds, I would keep the board under my feet while I wrap them as I show in this video:



Another self-rescue method which is more than twice as fast and a lot easier in stronger winds is one that doesn't involve any wrapping, but for this one I prefer keeping my board afloat and pushing it in front of me as I pull myself up the safety line. No kicking and no swimming = no tangles



If the board is too much of a concern during the self-rescue think about letting go of it and self-rescue as fast as possible, this means you get back to the shore quicker and have more time to look for the board and more time to signal other kiters to get the board for you before it drifts too far downwind.

Most kiters aren't very competent at self-rescue simply because it's not taught well enough nor is practiced well enough to ensure efficient results when a real situation occurs.

Were you asked to do a solo self-rescue in deep water in your lessons or did you just get a demonstration/simulation with the instructor standing on the beach or in shallow waters?

Christian
RedclffRoss
RedclffRoss
QLD
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16 Oct 2015 6:51pm
In the past I have just kept the board on my feet, feet out in front facing the kite while I wind the lines. Also have unclipped the kiteleash from the loop and then threaded it through a footstrap of the board and clipped it back onto the safety, its a bit awkard cos the board is bobbing around in the way a bit. At the time I was thinking it may be worth having a second leash for when this happens but it has happend so rarely (twice in 5 years) and luckily always close to shore close to shallow water.

A previous posted commented that it is an under practiced and under taught skill, and I would agree. Thankful that both times I was close to shore if I was km offshore I would have felt pretty vulnerable.
KiwiDave
KiwiDave
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192 posts
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16 Oct 2015 9:29pm
Thanks all.

When I first dropped my kite I could touch the bottom (at a stretch), but I decided this was a chance to practice a deep water self rescue.

When I decided to do it there was no wind and I forgot to let my quick release go. Then when I was half way through winding up my lines I start to hear thunder, the sky darkened and I realised my mistake. I decided to unwind my lines again and let the QR go because I had visions of the wind coming back and powering up my kite. As expected I ended up in an awful tangle of lines.

On reflection I should have just put a few more turns of one front line onto the bar and carried on. By this time I was closer to shore and ironically in deeper water.

Anyway I was quite relaxed throughout and will be practising again soon. From memory my self rescue during my lesson was in chest deep water.
Lambie
Lambie
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16 Oct 2015 10:25pm
KiwiDave - Typically in a self rescue I wouldn't release my primary depower - you called it a quick release - I think we are talking about the same thing ?
In all of the self rescue instructions/ vids it always states you should be grabbing at least a couple of metres of the depower (front) line(s) so that the kite cannot power up as you wrap the remaining lines around the bar .
In my experience and in deep water you end up with loose lines around you which is a tangle issue until they are finally wrapped around the bar - no situation is perfect!!
Regarding self rescue - there was a post sometime ago (self rescue review- apologies to who posted it - was very good) and it showed that is was much faster to work your way up the front lines and grab the kite and then wind up lines rather than trying to wind lines around the bar with the kite dragging you down wind. Makes sense apart from the tangle factor ( seaweed, reef, etc). this may help with keeping the board close as well .
Just2807
Just2807
181 posts
181 posts
17 Oct 2015 3:59am
Lambie said..

Regarding self rescue - there was a post sometime ago (self rescue review- apologies to who posted it - was very good) and it showed that is was much faster to work your way up the front lines and grab the kite and then wind up lines rather than trying to wind lines around the bar with the kite dragging you down wind. Makes sense apart from the tangle factor ( seaweed, reef, etc). this may help with keeping the board close as well .


I actually done this in shallow water, was way faster after u "take care" of the kite. But in the deep, u just let lines behind u, grab the kite and then what? Would be nice to speed up process in deep water but how do u start "winding" after u get to the kite and bar is 20+ meters behind u?
KiwiDave
KiwiDave
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17 Oct 2015 7:03am
By the quick release I meant the chicken loop. Perhaps I am using the wrong term?

Releasing the chicken loop on my bar causes me to wind about 5m of one front line onto the bar before winding the remainder of all lines on.

I have limited internet at the moment but will certainly watch Christian's videos as soon as I can.


kemp90
kemp90
QLD
1694 posts
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17 Oct 2015 7:55am
What level of tennis elbow did you have? I got it now and it's just moved up from my forarm to the front of my elbow. Probably not going to rest it till after the wind season tho.
KiwiDave
KiwiDave
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192 posts
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17 Oct 2015 11:46am
Hi Kemp90

My tennis elbow was a distinct injury and not a repetitive strain thing. Well that's what the physio said anyway.

It started as a painful forearm the day after a kiting session and over a week or two progressed to my elbow. The physio explained that is normal. We first feel the pain in the forearm where there is lots of blood and then the pain gradually moves back to the injury site.

Ice is my friend. Even if you can't rest it I would use Ice every night and especially after kiting (modern freezable jell packs are good rather than real ice).
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