Self-launching - video tutorial

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KiteBud
KiteBud
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5 Mar 2013 11:40pm
Hi all,

as promised, here is a video tutorial on self-launching. Please pay attention to the safety warnings in the video and below. Experienced kiters: feel free to add additional helpful tips or input to this thread in relation to this self-launching technique.

-Self launching should only be attempted by more experienced kiters with comfortable flying skills as well as quick and appropriate safety reflexes.

-It's always best and much safer to learn to self-launch in lighter winds first, i.e. 15-18 knots as in this video.

-Self launching should only be attempted when the downwind, upwind and cross
wind areas are completely secure and empty of other kiters, people, obstacles, etc.

-Always ensure there is plenty of space downwind, preferably a good 50meters or more.

-Make sure the beach is wide enough for self-launching, at least 30 meters wide.

-Make sure there isn't too much risk of tangling your lines around seaweed or branches. Such obstacles will easily tangle your lines and turn your self-launch into a kitemare.

-When attempting to self-launch in stronger winds (20 knots or more), it's always a better idea to have one hand placed on the chicken loop safety release in case anything goes wrong, so you can release very quickly at the first sign of any problem.

-Avoid grabbing the bar and powering the kite until you are certain the kite is safe to fly and under control.

-Always try to self-launch without pulling the bar in, simply using the steering line to
get the kite off the ground.

-Don't forget to TRIM your kite before launch, especially in strong winds, this will make a massive difference to minimize the risk in case anything goes wrong, like a kite tumble or a sudden launch off the ground.

-Self-launching and self-landing your kite isn't the best for the longevity of your gear as most of the damage on kites usually come from self-launch or self-land.

-Whenever possible, kiters should always use help to launch and land, especially on a busy beach, narrow beach, too much obstacles on the beach, etc.

-Self-launching in very strong winds (25 knots +) can be extremely dangerous and should only be attempted by advanced and expert kiters.

-All kites react a bit differently to self-launching, familiarize yourself with your kite's self-launching behavior in light winds first, then gradually attempt it in stronger winds.


SaltySinus
SaltySinus
VIC
960 posts
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6 Mar 2013 2:53am
Great video. I use this technique myself (as opposed to the folded over edge technique in Progression Beginner).

My only comment is, in the video, the kite is fairly close the wire barrier. This looks unavoidable on that beach. I personally would appreciate more room down wind to feel comfortable, as If the shizzle hit the fan, you'd pull the quick release sending the kite a few metres further downwind, catching on the wire fence and tearing.

Keep up the helpful/good work!

juicerider
juicerider
WA
790 posts
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6 Mar 2013 8:44am
Good video Chris, you are becoming an internet sensation. I think you would get more hits though if you added a screaming goat in there
Peterdj
Peterdj
VIC
139 posts
VIC, 139 posts
6 Mar 2013 1:47pm
Great video.

I know its different but when doing a re launch on water you would de power as well ?
AKSonline
AKSonline
WA
925 posts
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6 Mar 2013 1:41pm
Just another thing to mention, self launching in any way can(will) cause premature wear and tear to your kite.
Most of the kites that we get sent to repair from the north west, have damage or repairs inflicted by self launch.
If you are at a beach and there are other kiters introduce yourself and ask for help, this will save your gear, and probably make you some friends.
Toddy
terminal
terminal
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1421 posts
6 Mar 2013 5:57pm
AKSonline said...
Just another thing to mention, self launching in any way can(will) cause premature wear and tear to your kite.
Most of the kites that we get sent to repair from the north west, have damage or repairs inflicted by self launch.
If you are at a beach and there are other kiters introduce yourself and ask for help, this will save your gear, and probably make you some friends.
Toddy


Nice work on the videos.
Its all very useful stuff that too often gets overlooked, and these things are sometimes critical for avoiding injuries or death.

How about showing an achor launch with a bag full of sand?
fingerbone
fingerbone
NSW
921 posts
NSW, 921 posts
6 Mar 2013 9:39pm
terminal said...
AKSonline said...
Just another thing to mention, self launching in any way can(will) cause premature wear and tear to your kite.
Most of the kites that we get sent to repair from the north west, have damage or repairs inflicted by self launch.
If you are at a beach and there are other kiters introduce yourself and ask for help, this will save your gear, and probably make you some friends.
Toddy


Nice work on the videos.
Its all very useful stuff that too often gets overlooked, and these things are sometimes critical for avoiding injuries or death.

How about showing an achor launch with a bag full of sand?


+1 ... Or using one of those wombat type sand anchors.
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
6 Mar 2013 10:34pm
AKSonline said...
Just another thing to mention, self launching in any way can(will) cause premature wear and tear to your kite.
Most of the kites that we get sent to repair from the north west, have damage or repairs inflicted by self launch.
If you are at a beach and there are other kiters introduce yourself and ask for help, this will save your gear, and probably make you some friends.
Toddy


a great way to self launch in such conditions ie debris on the beach is the folded tip method, never seen anyone do it here but its a handy method to learn,
zarb
zarb
NSW
703 posts
NSW, 703 posts
7 Mar 2013 8:27am
I've been using this method with great success, but my kite does a lot more sliding downwind before propping up on a wingtip for launch. I've been launching on hard sand so maybe it's just more slippery than soft sand?
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
7 Mar 2013 4:32pm
zarb said...
I've been using this method with great success, but my kite does a lot more sliding downwind before propping up on a wingtip for launch. I've been launching on hard sand so maybe it's just more slippery than soft sand?



Great vid - nice work.
If its clear sand you dont need to worry too much zarb.
But if you work at trying to be further upwind before attempting the lift-off you will find the angle that minimises the sliding. Trial & error - you will get it right most times once you have the angle sorted.
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
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7 Mar 2013 4:39pm
In the days of 'C' kites the folded wingtip was the standard method for all. The birth of the bows was when this 'new' method was introduced.
Like most I tried the folded wingtip & sand when I bought my first bows but found it very sketchy - dangerous even - as the folded LE would spring out spilling all the sand.
Result - kite out of control cos you werent in place for a launch.
It may be doable as a regular practice??? Im not sure as I gave it away & havent tried since I learnt the 'pull into the wind' method.
Yep Im unsure but wouldnt recommend it unless you have already mastered it somehow - like caucy has obviously.
terminal
terminal
1421 posts
1421 posts
7 Mar 2013 5:04pm
zarb said...
I've been using this method with great success, but my kite does a lot more sliding downwind before propping up on a wingtip for launch. I've been launching on hard sand so maybe it's just more slippery than soft sand?


Once you have set the kite at an angle to just be catching a little wind into the downwind end of the kite, you can pile up sand behind the leading edge of the kite (not on top of the L/E) at a point about 2/3 of the way from the middle of the kite to the upwind end of the L/E. The kite will turn around that pile of sand and reduce the sliding and wear on the kite.

KiteBilly
KiteBilly
VIC
90 posts
VIC, 90 posts
7 Mar 2013 8:12pm
zarb said...
I've been using this method with great success, but my kite does a lot more sliding downwind before propping up on a wingtip for launch. I've been launching on hard sand so maybe it's just more slippery than soft sand?


As the kite fills with air try walking half step or so towards the kite(not too far) and give the upwind steering line a small tug, this helps the kite get of the ground...

KiteBilly
KiteBilly
VIC
90 posts
VIC, 90 posts
7 Mar 2013 8:43pm
That didnt read right, Once the kite has filled with air and starts to move.....then...^^^^
zarb
zarb
NSW
703 posts
NSW, 703 posts
7 Mar 2013 9:39pm
Cheers guys. Tried it again this afternoon. Perfect launch.
dafunk
dafunk
QLD
561 posts
QLD, 561 posts
7 Mar 2013 8:54pm
must be 110% on lines
i find if i walk more the kite slides less .
so walk upwind till kite fills ,check lines , steer kite and walk upwind more
get ready for the launch
+1 assisted
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
7 Mar 2013 9:10pm
puppetonastring said...
In the days of 'C' kites the folded wingtip was the standard method for all. The birth of the bows was when this 'new' method was introduced.
Like most I tried the folded wingtip & sand when I bought my first bows but found it very sketchy - dangerous even - as the folded LE would spring out spilling all the sand.
Result - kite out of control cos you werent in place for a launch.
It may be doable as a regular practice??? Im not sure as I gave it away & havent tried since I learnt the 'pull into the wind' method.
Yep Im unsure but wouldnt recommend it unless you have already mastered it somehow - like caucy has obviously.


the stronger the more sand, it has its advantages if done correct you dont even connect until just before launch taking that bit of risk away, tethered is imo the only true safe way, but good videos for the guys and girls
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
8 Mar 2013 11:39am
cauncy said...
tethered is imo the only true safe way


and the least used ??
Rattlehead
Rattlehead
QLD
555 posts
QLD, 555 posts
10 Mar 2013 11:07am
All good , but you broke rule #1
Where possible launch towards the water .... I would have set the kite up on the edge of the water and launched out towards the water . If things go wrong the kite and rider goes out towards the water( much softer landing for the kite if you f up ) , if your launch went wrong your kite would have ended up in the fence or in a tree.
arloj
arloj
WA
237 posts
WA, 237 posts
10 Mar 2013 2:21pm
puppetonastring said...
cauncy said...
tethered is imo the only true safe way


and the least used ??


Everyone up here/gero has the ability to tether launch with the nice empty beaches an can park the 4wd on the beach..an do so often

Man I miss gero :(
Warehouse13
Warehouse13
NSW
185 posts
NSW, 185 posts
10 Mar 2013 9:34pm
Thanks cbulota, get little vid.
Kazan
Kazan
QLD
699 posts
QLD, 699 posts
10 Mar 2013 10:39pm
This video is great. Infact i did two self launches today based on what i saw in the video and it worked well, and I am a beginner. Yes from land not water relaunches. I say practice deliberately to self launch and you'll get the hang of it. Just obey the wind window and direction. You wont find a person within coooeey if you really want to explore and kite surf, so I say learning to self launch is vital, even for beginners.
airush
airush
WA
44 posts
WA, 44 posts
12 Mar 2013 8:11am
Hey Cbulota

Thanks for the great vid, used this technique yesterday in 22kts at my local, also used the sand behind the LE as also advised, worked a treat, very impressed.
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