Some New Experiences & Questions

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magentaninja
magentaninja
QLD
50 posts
QLD, 50 posts
10 Oct 2012 9:26pm
Hi All,

So I had a session this afternoon at Shearwater (Gold Coast). Can't say I've had so many new experiences in one session and just have a few questions regarding them and the best ways to deal with them.

1. Flipped the kite - Ok so I was riding along in toe side and because I'm concentrating more on not stacking on the board while toeside I didn't notice my kite about to hit the water. Anyway it hit the water but I kept going which made the lines slack. The wind took the kite and flipped it around so that some of the lines were going over the top of the kite. Needless to say the kite flailed around in its rather messed up state while I flailed around wondering wtf to do to get it back (meanwhile I'm in the middle of the broadwater). After about 5 minutes of flailing around I managed to get all the lines going under the kite again. However, the outer lines went around the inner lines now before going to the wing tips (so it was flipped over basically) I managed to relaunch it and make it to the beach but of course the kite wasn't very happy in that state. So my question is, what do you guys do when / if this happens.

2. Riding Unhooked - So I also tried my first unhooked riding today. The experience was rather good. Though, as I imagined, the kite was highly powered in this state (duh), and the one time I got pulled onto the beach. Is there some way that you are supposed to trim the kite before unhooking? Should I depower it a little before un-hooking?

3. The Laugh - This one is more of a laugh than asking for advice though here goes. After doing a big jump I lost my board and crashed a fair way downwind of my board. Now as I've done many times I started dragging upwind to zig zag back to my board when I felt a big bump on my leg... The first thing I though was shark... as you do when you are being reeled around like a piece of bait while body dragging. However, it was my first session on my new Cab Custom and there was no way I was going to lose it... hesitantly I kept on body dragging and along comes about 20 sailing yachts and Cats coming zooming past right where I was. Meanwhile I can't see my board and I start yelling out to the yacht people asking if they've seen it but to no avail. Anyway I keep going and I get another bump... At this point I'm ****ting myself because the wind is dieing and my kite is barely flying anymore and I have know idea what is bumping me... After a while I find my board and get to it and ride back to shore...When I get back to the shore I realize that what was bumping me the whole time was my kite leash..... or at least I'm pretty sure it was.
purpleninja
purpleninja
55 posts
55 posts
11 Oct 2012 8:30am
Magenta, magenta magenta....

Duude number 1 you fliped your kite real good and it didnt rip into several pieces, firstly be thankfull your kite is in one piece, pull your safety and self rescue or lay in it until someone finds you. I wish this happened to me, my kite rips instead of inverting

2 man up

3 man up it was your leash or a mermaid nothing to worry about

4 is that me in your profile pic?
acitta
acitta
VIC
152 posts
VIC, 152 posts
11 Oct 2012 12:06pm
1) im not sure if this is a good idea, but if its shallow i pull in a couple of meters of center lines, loop them around my harness somehow to secure the kite in a depowered position and then unhook from the chicken loop and feed my bar through my center lines. It's a bit of a mind **** and 50% of the time i make it worse (especially with my 5 line kite), but the other 50% im up and riding again without having to re-rig my kite. I'm hoping I'll get better at it as it happens every now and then.

2) I've only unhooked a couple of times before, but depending on your kite there should be a way to sheet in your center lines and lock them in a less powered position. When you can ride comfortably hooked in with the bar all the way in, then you can unhook. I'm pretty sure all newer kites have a way to trim the lines but how you'd do it depends on your kite.
magentaninja
magentaninja
QLD
50 posts
QLD, 50 posts
11 Oct 2012 12:49pm
purpleninja said...
Magenta, magenta magenta....

Duude number 1 you fliped your kite real good and it didnt rip into several pieces, firstly be thankfull your kite is in one piece, pull your safety and self rescue or lay in it until someone finds you. I wish this happened to me, my kite rips instead of inverting

2 man up

3 man up it was your leash or a mermaid nothing to worry about

4 is that me in your profile pic?


Oh my purple counterpart....

1. Get a kite that doesn't rip whenever you touch it dude... that thing sucks... next time your kite tears I'm going to take a knife to it and finish it for good.

2. It was definitely a mermaid.

3. It might be a picture of you... if you could stand up longer than 30m XD... I think the only photo's I have of you is you sitting in the water with 2 massive gaping holes in your kite on several different occasions.....

4. Have fun at work today.... see you tomorrow XD

acitta said...
1) im not sure if this is a good idea, but if its shallow i pull in a couple of meters of center lines, loop them around my harness somehow to secure the kite in a depowered position and then unhook from the chicken loop and feed my bar through my center lines. It's a bit of a mind **** and 50% of the time i make it worse (especially with my 5 line kite), but the other 50% im up and riding again without having to re-rig my kite. I'm hoping I'll get better at it as it happens every now and then.

2) I've only unhooked a couple of times before, but depending on your kite there should be a way to sheet in your center lines and lock them in a less powered position. When you can ride comfortably hooked in with the bar all the way in, then you can unhook. I'm pretty sure all newer kites have a way to trim the lines but how you'd do it depends on your kite.



Hmm sounds interesting.

I have a Cab Switchblade 2011 so it's fairly easy to depower. That sounds like good advice. I will trim it until I can ride comfortably fully sheeted in, then I'll un-hook. Thanks
purpleninja
purpleninja
55 posts
55 posts
12 Oct 2012 5:24pm
I tried unhooking and can't hold the power?.
90% of the people we have come across don't have their kite trimmed correctly to unhook.

What you need to do is have your kite in its optimal position when the bar is pulled down against chicken loop. That way when you unhook the kite keeps flying perfectly.

If you unhook and kite begins to stall or fly backwards it means it is oversheeted - Pull on the depower strap until you achieve optimal kite position with the bar sheeted fully in.

from ben wilson himself www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Kitesurfing/Wave-Riding-Tips-by-Ben-Wilson--Part-1_1500204.aspx
Taurus
Taurus
VIC
189 posts
VIC, 189 posts
16 Oct 2012 10:09pm
The kite is supposed to pull you when you unhook, you need to point your board more downwind - this will take tension off the lines and feel more comfortable, then when your ready, load and pop.
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
17 Oct 2012 9:26am
I'll add to the first one.

Avoidance is always better than recovery.
Keep one eye on your kite and the other on where you're going.
If your kite does hit the water keep as much tension on your lines as possible and try to get the thing back up again. If that's not possible the line tension should stop a roll over.
magentaninja
magentaninja
QLD
50 posts
QLD, 50 posts
17 Oct 2012 11:29am
Taurus said...
The kite is supposed to pull you when you unhook, you need to point your board more downwind - this will take tension off the lines and feel more comfortable, then when your ready, load and pop.


I went out yesterday and practised un-hooking and hooking back in heaps. Riding downwind first did make it a lot more comfortable and easier. Now for the load and pop... I'll give it a try today, hopefully going out this arvo.
suniboy21
suniboy21
VIC
1090 posts
VIC, 1090 posts
18 Oct 2012 8:21pm
My experience with the load and pop was quite good, i found once you have the kite powered up and at the right angle you can create quite a bit of load to pop with. also helps for practicing landings so when you do start going big it becomes a lot easier to spot landings
Enjoy
magentaninja
magentaninja
QLD
50 posts
QLD, 50 posts
18 Oct 2012 10:47pm
Had no luck on Wednesday due to light winds at Shearwater but went all out with the load and pop today and the wind was good.. Was freaking awesome fun I love it! Feel's more like wakeboarding which is what I'm used to. Didn't try combining un-hooking yet but I think next time go out (Hopefully Friday) I'll give that a go.
Mikedobee
Mikedobee
NSW
331 posts
NSW, 331 posts
20 Oct 2012 1:02am
Magenta, it appears that I've found someone that's crazier than I am....Pheewww, I am not alone :)))
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