Spanish Kite a good deal?

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deltachange
deltachange
VIC
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25 Oct 2012 11:22pm
I've been lucky enough to spend the week in Tarifa, Spain (self -proclaimed kiting mecca). As a complete beginner, learning in 30kt winds put the fear of god in me (and after 8 hours of lessons had all but buried my gear in sand!) but thankfully the winds dropped back to 15-20 the next day which was easier to learn to stand up for a few seconds.

At 91kg, on the 30+ knot day the instructor put me on an 8m, and in the lighter wind a 12 was doing well until the wind died in the ass. I was just getting up on the 12 and from what I understand this is a good all-rounder for Brissie for someone of my skill and weight.

It's end of season here and the owner (Sam - bloody good bloke) is offering a second hand "Bull" Zigzag kite made in Tarifa - they reckon they get two years out of a Bull kite when subjected to the abuse of a a student trainer, and the same kites are used by the locals (reasonably good performance, not absolute beginners). I have seen two seams go in the week here though - not sure if that's normal after a pretty hard crash on water.

Am wondering whether the deal is worth lugging it back - about AUD$400 for a 2012 12m Bull - compared to looking for a second hand deal in Brissie.

Am also wondering how hard it might be to get some help repairing, if my Brisbane local hasn't seen this brand before. As a basic 5 struct single pump inflatable, I'm assuming the techniques are the same...?

appreciate any thoughts...
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
NSW, 5786 posts
26 Oct 2012 12:00am


forget it
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel
WA
1397 posts
WA, 1397 posts
25 Oct 2012 9:10pm
As a beginner 6 months ago, i strongly recommend you buy where you are going to live. When you have dramas, (and you will) it is SO good to be able to go and talk to your local guy about it and what to do. Whether it is knots in your lines, recovering from a shore break pounding, or technical issues.... The extra dollars you might spend are more than compensated by the fun time on the ocean. Which is, after all, the point of the escapade.

Well that's my experience.
RPM
RPM
WA
1549 posts
RPM RPM
WA, 1549 posts
25 Oct 2012 10:46pm
sounds like spains answer to switch kites..
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3510 posts
WA, 3510 posts
25 Oct 2012 11:23pm
RPM said...
sounds like spains answer to switch kites..


Have you had bad experiences with Switch kites RPM, what models did you try?

Sorry for bringing up the S word Laurie but it sounds to me like RPM was trying to knock them, so I would just like to hear what problems he has had with them.

Can't say I have heard of a Bull Zigzag but then again I haven't been to Tarifa.
I have a feeling that Dave and the Doc might be right though.
RPM
RPM
WA
1549 posts
RPM RPM
WA, 1549 posts
26 Oct 2012 6:23pm
Hi Kent, I have actually rode them. 2 models in fact. We know you froth on them so what is the point of asking why I don't rate them.. You will just argue anyways so lets leave it there. If my opinion of them hurts your feelings because on their test team, please accept my apologies.

I'm happy that you enjoy using them. That's all that matters.. No big deal really.
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3510 posts
WA, 3510 posts
26 Oct 2012 8:23pm
Fair enough, Im sure the Zigzag has the same issues, I can see why you would compare them, carry on.
fingerbone
fingerbone
NSW
921 posts
NSW, 921 posts
27 Oct 2012 7:48am
Dave Whettingsteel said...
As a beginner 6 months ago, i strongly recommend you buy where you are going to live. When you have dramas, (and you will) it is SO good to be able to go and talk to your local guy about it and what to do. Whether it is knots in your lines, recovering from a shore break pounding, or technical issues.... The extra dollars you might spend are more than compensated by the fun time on the ocean. Which is, after all, the point of the escapade.

Well that's my experience.


Although I agree on buying local , what difference would there be if he bought that zig zag kite into a shop here in oz for repairs or advise compared to bringing a ( bought second hand ) kite from seabreeze into same shop?
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel
WA
1397 posts
WA, 1397 posts
27 Oct 2012 8:11pm
fingerbone said...
Dave Whettingsteel said...
As a beginner 6 months ago, i strongly recommend you buy where you are going to live. When you have dramas, (and you will) it is SO good to be able to go and talk to your local guy about it and what to do. Whether it is knots in your lines, recovering from a shore break pounding, or technical issues.... The extra dollars you might spend are more than compensated by the fun time on the ocean. Which is, after all, the point of the escapade.

Well that's my experience.


Although I agree on buying local , what difference would there be if he bought that zig zag kite into a shop here in oz for repairs or advise compared to bringing a ( bought second hand ) kite from seabreeze into same shop?


Probably not a lot of difference as you say. I've bought new, but last season stock,from my local shop in Gero, and it's just been great to go and see Kim whenever I need a question answered or a problem resolved. I guess it is my style to find people I trust, then to do business with them over the long haul. Price matters, but I think there is a lot of additional value in someone who look after you, and especially when you are a newbie.
Kazan
Kazan
QLD
699 posts
QLD, 699 posts
29 Oct 2012 2:21pm
I can also attest to those buying local and being looked after by a local expert.
I bought my first and only kite from KSS Altona and they were fantastic with everything that went wrong with it, even to the point of teaching me to properly pack the kite and not twist the LE. Now it's been perfect since!
If I had taken an overseas kite to the shop, I would have been frowned upon at least.
Buy local and get more than what you paid for.
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