Strapless SB in chop

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zarb
zarb
NSW
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NSW, 703 posts
24 Mar 2013 7:51pm
Hey all,

Gave the strapless SB a go today. After half an hour of getting waterstarts worked out I was getting upwind and having a bucketload of fun.

When I got out a little further into the bay the chop got really bad and I was having trouble keeping my feet on the board. Absorbing the big bumps through my legs worked fine, but the little bumps caused the board to skip out and I would loose my feet. Should I have more weight over my back foot? Anything I should be doing different with my kite that I normally wouldn't do on a TT? I quickly learnt to make smoother movements with the kite...
zarb
zarb
NSW
703 posts
NSW, 703 posts
24 Mar 2013 8:09pm
Oh and I suppose now might be a good time to ask about my Ozone C4. There are 3 possible positions on the wingtips to attach my steering lines. Which does what? What would be the one to use for strapless Sb? At the moment it's on the middle one.
SaltySinus
SaltySinus
VIC
960 posts
VIC, 960 posts
24 Mar 2013 8:37pm
Zarb, congrats on the milestone...

As for the kite lines... I think as a general lines at the back/rear of the kite means it steers quicker but you have less pressure and vice versa.

Good luck with the SB thing...
NSW, 4382 posts
25 Mar 2013 9:49am
SaltySinus said...
Zarb, congrats on the milestone...

As for the kite lines... I think as a general lines at the back/rear of the kite means it steers quicker but you have less pressure and vice versa.

Good luck with the SB thing...



Possibly you are edging too much, rather than riding the board a bit flatter and working the fins? Maybe also riding too fast, surfboards are ridden quite a bit slower than TT's

Leave the rear line connection where it is unless the bar pressure/steering effort is too high.
bene313
bene313
WA
1347 posts
WA, 1347 posts
25 Mar 2013 1:44pm
Basically sounds like you are going to fast and/or too powered up. Try a smaller kite or less windy day perhaps?
savagebee
savagebee
NSW
35 posts
NSW, 35 posts
26 Mar 2013 10:06pm
zarb said...

Hey all,

Gave the strapless SB a go today. After half an hour of getting waterstarts worked out I was getting upwind and having a bucketload of fun.

When I got out a little further into the bay the chop got really bad and I was having trouble keeping my feet on the board. Absorbing the big bumps through my legs worked fine, but the little bumps caused the board to skip out and I would loose my feet. Should I have more weight over my back foot? Anything I should be doing different with my kite that I normally wouldn't do on a TT? I quickly learnt to make smoother movements with the kite...


Hey Zarb, I have the exact same problem. Obviously the answer is to slow down, but can someone say how you do this please. The problem I have is I start going faster and faster and I know I need to edge more to slow down but at a certain speed edging becomes really difficult as the board will just spin out. I try to fly the kite higher and when I can get it up higher that does work but if im still going fast this can also be the final straw as less weight on the board makes it lose it completely in the chop.
bene313
bene313
WA
1347 posts
WA, 1347 posts
26 Mar 2013 7:43pm
^^^ again sounds like you are too powered up. As an example, at 72kg I am on my 6m from 20+ knots with a surfboard.

Strapless riding is not about being powered, as, just as you guys are experiencing, it is detrimental to the style of riding. If you are going too fast simply tacking in/out, how will you go dropping down the face of a head high wave?

You should be needing to work the kite a little when riding strapless. I can tell you I never feel like I'm going too fast when tacking in/out strapless - in fact it's usually the opposite.

If you still find you are going too fast (and this should be when about to drop into a wave) stomp on the tail of the board while letting the bar out.

If you say I am wrong, which I may be, and you are not overpowered, then you are not pointing the board upwind enough. This talk of edging does not really apply on a surfboard. Surfboard has fins - there is no need to edge! Simply point as upwind as far as you can and by the nature of physics you will slow down.
zarb
zarb
NSW
703 posts
NSW, 703 posts
26 Mar 2013 11:21pm
When you say there is no need to edge a SB, are you still leaning out from the board like on a twin tip, hips to the sky? Or is it a more upright position?
surfingboye
surfingboye
NSW
2707 posts
NSW, 2707 posts
26 Mar 2013 11:40pm
practice, practice, practice...
it will all come with time on the water!

or just get on youtube and watch how the pros ride a surfboard between tacks...
toppleover
toppleover
QLD
2070 posts
QLD, 2070 posts
27 Mar 2013 8:33pm
zarb said...
When you say there is no need to edge a SB, are you still leaning out from the board like on a twin tip, hips to the sky? Or is it a more upright position?


You can still edge but only moderately (yes, more upright position) - nothing like on a TT, use your fins to go upwind by pushing your back foot downwind. (most of your weight is on your front foot)

In light wind keep edging to a minimum.
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