Tips on jybing strapless

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Vatos Locos
Vatos Locos
230 posts
230 posts
15 Aug 2016 7:51pm
Just a quick question on how to get the idea of jybing a strapless surfboard 85kg and goofy foot tried everything even a 5'9x22" quad surfboard but just can't get it, tips
Brohan
Brohan
VIC
528 posts
VIC, 528 posts
15 Aug 2016 10:30pm
I weigh about the same and I think I'm goofy (right foot forward?), anyway there's a few different ways you can do it.

The first way is before you do the turn, do it in steps, bring your front foot as close to your back foot as possible and bring your back foot up, so both of your feet are close and are around the middle of the board. Then do a quick step back with your right foot and shuffle your left foot back up. I did this when I was first learning, once you get the hang of it you just kinda do a small jump to switch.

The second time and easier, in my opinion, is to do it just after you come out of the turn. When you're in the turn you'll notice you dive your kite, when you're coming out of the turn your kite is going back to 12, this is when you pull down on the bar a bit and switch your feet over. This way your kite is taking your weight off the board so it's easier to do a small jump to switch.

Just keep trying took me a few sessions to get the hang of it and then a few more to get it dialled. I also found wide boards they were more unstable in the bay, try a skinnier board and see how you go, maybe around 18".
weebitbreezy
weebitbreezy
635 posts
635 posts
16 Aug 2016 7:43pm
Plenty of technique videos out there so I won't go into techniques.

Practice the footswap on land first before going out (even better if you have a skateboard to use)
I found it easiest to learn when nicely powered as you can sheet in to support your weight for balance. Having the kite a little higher makes it easier to learn as you won't get pulled over the nose as much.
Many find the foot swap after the gybe easiest to learn. Try moving your front foot inwards on the board a little before the gybe as this will help keep the toeside pressure which in turn keeps the board more stable when you move your back foot.
Kite choice can make a difference. I went from 1 in 4 to 2 in 3 success rate during a session where I borrowed a proper surf kite (as opposed to regular freeride kite). The additional drift and softer power delivery allowed me to forget about what the kite was doing and concentrate on the board and my feet.
Takes a bit of perseverance. Find a quiet spot and then go for it at the beginning of your session before you get tired. With shallow flat water you'd probably crack it in 30 minutes. Longer if you have to drag to recover your board. It really is something you can make big leaps in an afternoon if you commit.

If all else fails. Get a sliding harness
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
16 Aug 2016 10:00pm
Sliding harness helps a lot, especially changing to toeside before the gybe.

It's just practice, oddly enough. Focus on doing it quickly but smoothly, imagine you're Grasshopper walking on paper and float around. It's pretty amazing just how badly you can place your feet and still recover the transition and ride off

As weebit said, a moment of float from the kite helps massively.
Rails
Rails
QLD
1371 posts
QLD, 1371 posts
17 Aug 2016 6:32am
weebitbreezy said..
Plenty of technique videos out there so I won't go into techniques.

Practice the footswap on land first before going out (even better if you have a skateboard to use)
I found it easiest to learn when nicely powered as you can sheet in to support your weight for balance. Having the kite a little higher makes it easier to learn as you won't get pulled over the nose as much.
Many find the foot swap after the gybe easiest to learn. Try moving your front foot inwards on the board a little before the gybe as this will help keep the toeside pressure which in turn keeps the board more stable when you move your back foot.
Kite choice can make a difference. I went from 1 in 4 to 2 in 3 success rate during a session where I borrowed a proper surf kite (as opposed to regular freeride kite). The additional drift and softer power delivery allowed me to forget about what the kite was doing and concentrate on the board and my feet.
Takes a bit of perseverance. Find a quiet spot and then go for it at the beginning of your session before you get tired. With shallow flat water you'd probably crack it in 30 minutes. Longer if you have to drag to recover your board. It really is something you can make big leaps in an afternoon if you commit.

If all else fails. Get a sliding harness


Try moving your front foot inwards on the board a little before the gybe as this will help keep the toeside pressure which in turn keeps the board more stable when you move your back foot.

the pressure on the board is key I found, when you are ready to switch push into the board with your foot/feet before tryin to move, will keep the board steady and centres your balance, can also try pointing downwind a bit more so the change in direction is not so extreme
Vatos Locos
Vatos Locos
230 posts
230 posts
17 Aug 2016 7:04am
Thanks for the tips guys now just need the wind to practice practice practice
Lambie
Lambie
QLD
742 posts
QLD, 742 posts
19 Aug 2016 7:30pm
I think people over think the whole jibing thing - but then again I windsurfed before jumping on to a surfboard with a kite so may be atypical??

When trying to jibe a surfboard for the first few times I reckon you need to concentrate on just getting the board around - and enjoying the jibe ! Seriously don't worry about even thinking of changing feet until you are on the opposite tack (so yes riding toe side momentarily).

I used to try to change feet on the windsurf board mid gybe but it usually ended in a crash - the good guys can do it anytime they want but the rest of us are just mortals!!

As above - look at all of the youtube vids etc !! Once the surfboard jibe started to work for me with the kite high to support the wobbles - then I carried a bit more speed and moved the kite quicker from one tack to the other and just FOLLOWED it around. Just like a push bike going slowly you wobble - but a bit faster (not warp speed tho!!) and things flow nicely!!
weebitbreezy
weebitbreezy
635 posts
635 posts
19 Aug 2016 8:26pm
I could be wrong, but I don't think its the carve he's struggling with - more the footswap.

Out of interest - how many sessions until you were coming out of gybes planing on your windsurf board? I seem to remember someone telling me you had to keep your weight forwards throughout the turn so you didn't sink the tail and lose the speed during the carve. Same thing on a surfboard.
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