Training Kite necessity?

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archher
archher
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4 posts
14 Sep 2011 7:04pm
So when i was younger (12 or 13) i used to play around with what i now realise was most probably a 1.5m 2 line trainer kite, and now i am wanting to get into kitesurfing but alas, am unable to find this kite. Seeing as i was quite proficient with this kite when i was younger, coupled with my recent trip to cocos islands and a casual lesson with a friend, flying his 13m kitesurfing kite in rather light winds, where i did some basic launching and body dragging - (finally a question) - would it be recommended that i purchase a trainer kite for $300 odd to practice with before i get lessons, or could i potentially skip the trainer and just go for lessons?

Sorry that was a bit of a wall

Cheers,
Jono
radman4
radman4
678 posts
678 posts
14 Sep 2011 7:13pm
Skip it and go for the lessons,if your already proficient with one then the money is better spent on the lessons.
archher
archher
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4 posts
14 Sep 2011 7:17pm
cheers for the fast reply i think i just needed to be assured that i'd be ok thanks
archher
archher
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4 posts
14 Sep 2011 7:26pm
seeing as i've got this topic now, i live in Perth, around Mt Lawley for those who know the area, just wondering, in someones personal opinion, either through a friend or personal experience, who would be the best option for me to learn with?
BurkeyBoy
BurkeyBoy
QLD
549 posts
QLD, 549 posts
15 Sep 2011 11:29am
Quote:
would it be recommended that i purchase a trainer kite for $300 odd to practice with before i get lessons, or could i potentially skip the trainer and just go for lessons?

Sorry that was a bit of a wall

Cheers,
Jono

Agree with Radman. If you can borrow a trainer and have a few sessions then great, but I wouldn't be spending the money, lessons would be a better use of the cash.
If you have difficulty with kite control in your first lesson or two, your instructor will probably loan you a trainer kite rather than have you smash up his/her gear anyway. Kite control is the main skill you need to kiteboard. The better your control, the quicker you will progress when you get on the water.
Bog
Bog
WA
43 posts
Bog Bog
WA, 43 posts
15 Sep 2011 10:23am
From my experience anyone who has had 2+ hours on a trainer picks up the fundaments of kitesurfing far quicker and is more enjoyable for the person learning. Being able to keep the thing in the air while dickin around with everything else is a bonus. Once you drop the kite in the water you will loose 10 mins and 100m down wind.
Do yourself a favour, go down to your local spot with a carton of beer and someone will have a trainer you can borrow.
NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
WA, 1094 posts
15 Sep 2011 11:52am
I flew a two line stunt kite for about two hours tops before my lessons.
blueprint
blueprint
WA
321 posts
WA, 321 posts
15 Sep 2011 4:32pm
I went straight to the real thing and was fine...but I've since bought a trainer as I've found it really good (and a bit of fun) in sharpening my skills when I can't get out on the real thing. Have a look around they do come up time to time in the second hand section but having spent the last few months pretty much just flying the trainer for fun and doing a specific training regime I've got a lot of value from mine.
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
15 Sep 2011 6:04pm
archher said...

seeing as i've got this topic now, i live in Perth, around Mt Lawley for those who know the area, just wondering, in someones personal opinion, either through a friend or personal experience, who would be the best option for me to learn with?


Being an instructor in Perth I wont recommend specific place, as all the schools are good. BUT.....Being NOR, AKS in Scarbrough is your closest shop and place for quality lessons. With your experience, a trainer kite is a waste of time. With good lessons, you wont be spending your money on how to fly a kite. You will be spending your money on being safe, independent and wiping months off your learning curve. There are many Schools just SOR also if AKS is busy.
archher
archher
4 posts
4 posts
17 Sep 2011 10:30am
cheers Dave and everyone else this community is so friendly and nice, really looking forward to getting into it
Bog
Bog
WA
43 posts
Bog Bog
WA, 43 posts
18 Sep 2011 11:35am
dave...... said...
With your experience, a trainer kite is a waste of time.


mmmmmmmmmmm IMO Trainer kites are never a waste of time. 4 year in still getting Value out of it !
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
19 Sep 2011 4:48pm
Bog said...

dave...... said...
With your experience, a trainer kite is a waste of time.


mmmmmmmmmmm IMO Trainer kites are never a waste of time. 4 year in still getting Value out of it !



True....... Anyone got a good second hand trainer, really cheap
faimanu
faimanu
QLD
10 posts
QLD, 10 posts
23 Sep 2011 10:18am
Bog said...

dave...... said...
With your experience, a trainer kite is a waste of time.


mmmmmmmmmmm IMO Trainer kites are never a waste of time. 4 year in still getting Value out of it !



i bought a new trainer for $150 (last year's model) at a sale. it 's great for just fun and I won't be selling it, because the kids love it too. They don't care about playgrounds as much now. I just wish I had someone filming us right when a gust comes around. One can never time it right :)
badinfluence
badinfluence
QLD
538 posts
QLD, 538 posts
23 Sep 2011 10:35am
faimanu said...

Bog said...

dave...... said...
With your experience, a trainer kite is a waste of time.


mmmmmmmmmmm IMO Trainer kites are never a waste of time. 4 year in still getting Value out of it !



i bought a new trainer for $150 (last year's model) at a sale. it 's great for just fun and I won't be selling it, because the kids love it too. They don't care about playgrounds as much now. I just wish I had someone filming us right when a gust comes around. One can never time it right :)


Just quietly Faimanu, I think you see the trainer as a fantastic investment on seeing the ex get airborne and fly away when a big gust hits LOL!!

Sean84
Sean84
NT
9 posts
NT, 9 posts
25 Sep 2011 6:11pm
There are also a bunch of small entry level (ie low aspect) foils floating around (somewhere 1.5-3m mark) that you can fly on handles or bar. They make great recreational kites in 10kn, or u can throw a friend on them to happily drag around the sand while you are out on the waves. Look for low lift and stable kites.
Advantage of a real foil over a trainer IMO is when the wind is 25-30 you can use it on landboards buggies etc. cuz thats what they are designed for. Take about 4 mins to get out of the bag.
3m can be a bit big for kite initiates less than 70kg when its >10kn, so if ur thinking kids or missus 2m is a good size.




dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
26 Sep 2011 5:09pm
faimanu said...

Bog said...

dave...... said...
With your experience, a trainer kite is a waste of time.


mmmmmmmmmmm IMO Trainer kites are never a waste of time. 4 year in still getting Value out of it !



i bought a new trainer for $150 (last year's model) at a sale. it 's great for just fun and I won't be selling it, because the kids love it too. They don't care about playgrounds as much now. I just wish I had someone filming us right when a gust comes around. One can never time it right :)


The Slingshot B2, and the Best 2.5m are great for Perth conditions. Ozone imps are designed for kids. My 5 year old daughter flys the slingshot B2 but on 15m lines and a shorter bar. This prevents the kite from luffing sideways when she turns it hard.....
gregc
gregc
VIC
1299 posts
VIC, 1299 posts
28 Sep 2011 9:03am
Saw one on eBay for $190 I thought that was cheap
wheels
wheels
WA
204 posts
WA, 204 posts
10 Oct 2011 7:11pm
I have Ozone IMP 2.5 and good fun to play with and kids love it to, although can be very powerful and capable of puling you of balance in over 18 knots and would never let kids play with it without being ready to take control at any second as to dangerous for them and others.
jumarcil
jumarcil
33 posts
33 posts
10 Oct 2011 7:31pm
Lessons (a must); started kiteskiing 4 years ago; took a trainer course of 1 hour and a half and in the summer I took a second course of +- 1 hour and after it was train, train and train some more until you ride :-)

Safety must always be your first priority and don't try to impress the others; go at your own pace.

Kitesurfing is in my mind the nicest sport I have ver done; I am totally hooked.
Doudou
Doudou
WA
46 posts
WA, 46 posts
12 Oct 2011 5:34pm
Have an Elliot Magma 4m on handles, dunno if they sell that over here, but indeed this kind of purchase is never a waste. I still use it to mountainboard, or to teach my mates. a strap on one back line, and you have the best safety you can get on a kite that can still have enough power to have fun with, and that will also make you more confident in your flying skills.

if I recall, when I bought it it was around 150 euros, so a bit less than $200...

It has been crashed heaps and still flyes perfectly, so I rcommend it

However, having taught over in QLD, and reading what skills you seem to have, you dont really need one (mine now is only used for fun or teaching) so if you wanna save some cash, just go for the lessons. I loved it when the student already knows the ways of the kite on the first lesson, it really makes it a lot easier.

About the schools, northern Perth: AKS indeed, though I dont really know the others (sorry guys). really great guys.

Down in safety bay, you have both WA surf or West Oz kiteboarding. Heard good things about them both, and have seen them operate. Good schools I reckon (anyone, tell me if I'm wrong)

Welcome to our world
gregc
gregc
VIC
1299 posts
VIC, 1299 posts
14 Oct 2011 7:38pm
Training kites are awesome fun for the whole family. We fly mine with my partner and my son and literally a couple of hours will disappear.
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