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jabou91
jabou91
7 posts
7 posts
23 Nov 2010 10:25pm
Hi all,
I started kitesurfing nearly a year ago now. I learnt on a 2006 12m Best Waroo which has been and still is a good kite but having progressed am looking for something that will push me a bit more. Mostly do flat/choppy water stuff, un-hooked and just cruising around. Fairly rarely go into the surf but heading back to Aus for a few months so might give it a stab.

I travel around a lot with work so am mainly looking for something that doesn't go wrong, big wind range as i have a one kite quiver and is pretty grunty. As i had briddle lines and bladders blow on the Waroo(not fun). The 2 main kites i am looking at are the F-one Bandit 3 and a North Rebel. I was wanting to go 12m size wize again but speaking to a few people they say that the newer kites are much more grunty and would only need something around 10 or 11 M. To have the same low end but higher top end wind range.

If anyone has owned or used these kites any input would be very helpful. Mainly with wind range and things breaking.

I weight 82kgs and ride a 140 x 40 t/t board.

Cheers
Jack
Rhys McClintock
Rhys McClintock
NSW
995 posts
NSW, 995 posts
24 Nov 2010 10:19am
Depends on where you're coming in Aus, but i'd say stick with the 12m size. All the delta kites have lots of power, but also lots of depower so you'll still be right in a fair bit of wind at 80kgs.

I'd add the new Slingshot Rally to your list - it's perfect for travelling because:
- it's a delta (huge wind range).
- It's got no pulleys on the bridle to break, it doesn't even have the little steel rings.
- there's only 3 struts, so it packs down super small, and weighs very little.
- Its got a generic bar, so you can use it on other kites if you need to.
- All the other things like relaunch, durability, turning speed are top notch.
- Its also cheap - at just over $1900 for a 12m.

You really can't go wrong on a Rally... I still havn't heard of anyone NOT liking it...
SurfConnect
SurfConnect
QLD
1674 posts
QLD, 1674 posts
24 Nov 2010 10:19am
Try as many different kites as you can, but consider back up support in case things go wrong.

If you are in Brisbane, we have 11 brands for you to choose from, and anything goes wrong, we will loan you a kite free of charge to keep you on the water.

The Waroo was my favourite kite in 2006, I bought a 12m, then a 14m within a week after. With your experience, definitely try the new Best TABOU. The 17m with my Liquid Force Lowrider or the Raceboard is my ultimate lightwind machine. It is the kite I went 'WOW' since the 2006 Waroo in the Best range.

Also consider the Envy, super responsive and great fun kite. Dont have to depower to unhook. Quite similar to the Bandit but lighter in bar pressure and turns more responsive. We have all sizes from 4m to 15m ready for you to demo any day of the week, and we are right on the water at Sandgate.

If you need more info let me know. If you are not in Brisbane I can send the demo kites to you to try, at no cost to you.
Big eeeZeee
Big eeeZeee
NSW
1100 posts
NSW, 1100 posts
24 Nov 2010 7:11pm
Heard rebel's don't pull too well if you're into looping...

I used to ride a 14m 2006 waroo, then 9m 2007 waroo and then a 2008 Nemesis, but converted to a 2010 10m switchblade and have not looked back one bit! So impressed with it over all my best kites. Heaps of grunt, way easier to relaunch, easy to fly, will catch itself if you fly it to far forward of you (will not hindenburg like nemesis), boosts big, one pump!. Absolutely love it, no complaints at all other than the crappy bag. Glad I dropped down to a 10m as well! First day i bought it I took it out in a good solid 25-30 knots and thought id be way overpowered. Not the case though, amazing amount of depower on these things. Anyway i sound like a mega pimp so will stop here. I think you should give it consideration. that is all
Taurus
Taurus
VIC
189 posts
VIC, 189 posts
25 Nov 2010 12:42pm
I ride a 2011 North Rebel 12m & 134x42 board, weigh 80kg.

I have been out in 14 knots riding upwind with very little effort, have also been out in ~28-30 knots and again the kite depowers quite well although I wouldn't advise you take it out past about 26 knots.

It has no bridle, a new canopy material and one of the best bars on the market...I'm sure you've read the reviews. Relaunch took me a while to get used to but have no problem with it now and have relaunched it in 14knots.

With respect to things breaking, I see the vulnerability on the rebel as being its floating centre strut particularly if hit by a wave. Its a solid kite and alot of fun to ride, its more expensive than other brands but you will notice the difference in quality.
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
VIC, 2777 posts
25 Nov 2010 2:10pm
Big eeeZeee said...

Heard rebel's don't pull too well if you're into looping...

I used to ride a 14m 2006 waroo, then 9m 2007 waroo and then a 2008 Nemesis, but converted to a 2010 10m switchblade and have not looked back one bit! So impressed with it over all my best kites. Heaps of grunt, way easier to relaunch, easy to fly, will catch itself if you fly it to far forward of you (will not hindenburg like nemesis), boosts big, one pump!. Absolutely love it, no complaints at all other than the crappy bag. Glad I dropped down to a 10m as well! First day i bought it I took it out in a good solid 25-30 knots and thought id be way overpowered. Not the case though, amazing amount of depower on these things. Anyway i sound like a mega pimp so will stop here. I think you should give it consideration. that is all



^^^^^ what he said....

Switchblades are an awesome, well constructed, proven, no fuss, easy to use kite that will do everything. Just keep them away from the trees

jabou91
jabou91
7 posts
7 posts
26 Nov 2010 7:05pm
Hi guys,
Cheers for the info all taken on board will probs try and demo a few when i get back to Australia towards chrissy.
Jack
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