Upwind / speed / position

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Forcetwelve
Forcetwelve
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TAS, 170 posts
23 Nov 2013 7:51pm
Hi All

Hoping for a few pointers here as i am struggling with the whole upwind thing! Kited at torquay today and inverted my kite twice - good fun.

I have only kited about 15 times total over one season. Have had the benefit of doing a few downwinders at Namotu island which was great to get some skills up on the nice long run. However where I am struggling is staying upwind. Was wondering if you could diagnose and offer any medication for my issue.

- riding a surfboard with no straps (as i am keen to progress to the waves asap) but started on a twin tip.
- can ride toe side and prefer it to switch
- basically i can edge a bit, but then i find my kite is either drifting down or up and forcing me to look at it and preventing me edging. i look up at the kite, which in turn brings my body upright, and then i often gain speed as the board flattens out and i go further downwind.
- i find with the surfboard and no straps i often feel out of control (going too fast) and end up crashing
- wondering what the best position for the kite is when trying to go upwind (2 o'clock?)

thanks for any pointers.
Dl33ta
Dl33ta
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463 posts
TAS, 463 posts
23 Nov 2013 11:48pm
Far out you started on Nomotu?? Gotta be all downhill from their I assume Just my personal experience:

* you got to keep it slow without the straps or you'll spend too much time in the water. Bring on the power/flatten board between waves and wash it off/edge hard before you go over a wave or wash. Once you're outside the break you can give it some juice again and will have your best chance of going upwind. Sometimes I'll park to the point of sinking to give a wave enough time to dissapate, with the sb it's easy for a little squirt of kite power to get you going again.
* use the lateral force of your fins, i.e. push your back foot out rather than leaning back to create an edge when you're going slow. Inside the break you want to keep the board as flat as possible unless you're overpowered.
* strapless requires a lot of trimming from what I've found, to the point of adjusting for each tack. If you're going too fast you miss waves, get dragged downwind on gusts and get yanked off your board on turns.
* some guys say ride switch and they're right cause it's easier to maintain everything as you pointed out. No getting around the drawbacks of toeside but having said that when it's all working upwind toeside works ok for me.. Like just ok, till I want to use two hands on the bar or something.
* time; guys that have been doing it for years motor upwind where I'll plod upwind.
Forcetwelve
Forcetwelve
TAS
170 posts
TAS, 170 posts
24 Nov 2013 9:30am
Thanks mate. I did a half season here in Melbourne on a twin tip, and then did a few trips to Namotu where I met Ben Wilson who wouldn't let me use a twin tip or straps (haha!). Being a surfer the surfboard feels so much more natural than a twin tip.

I'm not yet in the waves as such, still just trying to get the hang of flying the kite with the SB. Thanks for the tips though - I just need more time in the water I think. Also reckon I will put some straps on my surfboard to get the hang of it. Went over the handle bars three times yesterday!
Dl33ta
Dl33ta
TAS
463 posts
TAS, 463 posts
24 Nov 2013 8:43pm
I'm off to Namotu for the first time next year, can't wait!

You might find the straps a bit unnatural and possibly counterproductive. For me straps force my front foot back a good 100 mil on the toeside stance and about 50 on the heelside. Also handy to be able to move the back foot forward when you are toeside to help keep the plane. But yeah experiment, straps make it easier to hoon around which might be what you need while you're getting used to your kite. Enjoy!
Forcetwelve
Forcetwelve
TAS
170 posts
TAS, 170 posts
24 Nov 2013 9:38pm
got on the twin tip today - felt a lot more in control. surfboard with straps it is! thanks for your tips, helped a lot.

enjoy namotu - i can guarantee you will.
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