WTF did I do wrong? Prt 2

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Seamus1982
Seamus1982
22 posts
22 posts
31 Jan 2013 4:47pm
Hey guys,

Had a bit of a kitemare today, just wanted to get some opinions! Pumped my kite up on the beach, wind was about 18 to 20 kts, turned the kite over and place it facing wind direction which was a couple of degrees off a direct on shore, weighted the trailing edge down with 5 good handfuls of sand. Turned to walk away and put gear back in the car so not in peeps way, heard the kite launch, turned to see it come into the air. Ran after and managed, between me and another fella to catch if before it caused any damage. At this point, I kinda took it as a sign that today wasn't my day and packed up, which was a good thing as a big storm came in pretty quick and caught a couple of guys out, which would could have been me.

Going through it all in my head, can't see what I did wrong but it must have been something. Although I did look across the beach after at other kites and they seemed to sit really low and stable when in the le down position, while another Naish (mines a 2013 Ride) seemed to sit quite high off the ground and flap a fair bit.

Anyone have any thoughts? Does this just happen once in everyone's kitetime?

Sorry for the essay.

Cheers
Sean
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
31 Jan 2013 8:27pm
Seamus1982 said...

turned the kite over and place it facing wind direction which was a couple of degrees off a direct on shore, weighted the trailing edge down with 5 good handfuls of sand. Turned to walk away and put gear back in the car so not in peeps way


Without knowing how you positioned / weighted your kite it is hard to tell, but I would suggest the only thing you do between turning over your kite and launching is walking directly from your kite to your bar, without passing go or collecting $200
terminal
terminal
1421 posts
1421 posts
31 Jan 2013 6:44pm
You weighted the TRAILING edge down?
If you actually did that then there's your answer. You need to put enough sand behind the leading edge near the centre of the kite to pin it down. Amount of sand depends on the wind strength.
Haydn24
Haydn24
QLD
473 posts
QLD, 473 posts
31 Jan 2013 8:58pm
Sometimes if you do not face the kite exactly into the wind, one side catches a bit of wind and lifts up. Then if there is a quick wind direction change it can slide the kite around, then it's in trouble.

Im not sure what you mean about sand on the trailing edge either... always place it either side of the middle strut and just behind the leading edge. And do more than you think you need to be safe

Cheers
deXtrous
deXtrous
NSW
451 posts
NSW, 451 posts
31 Jan 2013 11:09pm
Always put sand right behind leading edge.

Always make sure you're not placing your kite on a slope which could tilt the leading edge up.

Seamus1982
Seamus1982
22 posts
22 posts
1 Feb 2013 5:32am
Thanks guys, will make sure I weigh down at the trailing edge instead. At least I know I'm not going crazy now.
Beersy
Beersy
TAS
753 posts
TAS, 753 posts
1 Feb 2013 8:37am
Seamus1982 said...
Thanks guys, will make sure I weigh down at the trailing edge instead.


Hmmmmm..... Maybe you should re-read all the above advice....
SaltySinus
SaltySinus
VIC
960 posts
VIC, 960 posts
1 Feb 2013 10:38am
I concur with Galah... if the kite is pointing into the wind, the only thing that could make it tip and launch is weighting the trailing edge. Try and get the sand as close to the leading edge as possible,... and towards the centre as well.

You can still come unstuck if the wind suddenly changes direction (you'll often see 5+ unmanned kites go flying down st. kilda when that happens.
Sammyjay
Sammyjay
VIC
180 posts
VIC, 180 posts
1 Feb 2013 11:39am
Beersy said...
Seamus1982 said...
Thanks guys, will make sure I weigh down at the trailing edge instead.


Hmmmmm..... Maybe you should re-read all the above advice....




This ^

Make sure you understand the difference between leading and trailing edge. Everyone above has said "weigh as close to the leading edge as possible" yet you've said you'll weigh at the trailing edge.

Either mistyped, misread, misunderstand or a good troll?
Seamus1982
Seamus1982
22 posts
22 posts
1 Feb 2013 9:00am
Sorry early morning post, resulting in a typo. Meant leading edge! Cheers
Spitfire
Spitfire
WA
398 posts
WA, 398 posts
6 Feb 2013 12:12pm
i chuck my board on the leading edge......fins up!
suface2air
suface2air
QLD
701 posts
QLD, 701 posts
6 Feb 2013 6:11pm
all of above plus board plus harness on the front edge if really windy lots lots lots of sand and forget board as mine got caught buy wind and went end for end for about 200meters till it hit water so leason learnt if it is really windy, wind can move anything to anywhere including bar and lines .
Dl33ta
Dl33ta
TAS
463 posts
TAS, 463 posts
6 Feb 2013 7:22pm
There is always the odd wind veer that can catch you unawares as well, especially before a storm. Usually you can get a veer of 90 degrees or more in front of a system, or just from a localised obstruction casting a wind shadow and causing it to veer 180 degrees. Even with a veer of 90 degrees that could be enough to fill an unweighted side of the kite and develop enough leverage to toss a significant amount of sand off.

If you pump up and the trailing edge starts lifting regularly when it is nose down, you should probably be suspect and go overboard on your weighting.
shane75
shane75
QLD
209 posts
QLD, 209 posts
7 Feb 2013 10:19pm
I carry a couple old socks with me fill em with sand much softer on the kite material if you want it to last longer place near centre behind leading edge, also better to not use the board to weigh it down, why? because as they wear from scratches and chips along the edges of the boards from hitting the ground when getting on/off board it will damage your kite when the material flutters against your board.
Spitfire
Spitfire
WA
398 posts
WA, 398 posts
12 Feb 2013 12:47pm
shane75 said...
I carry a couple old socks with me fill em with sand much softer on the kite material if you want it to last longer place near centre behind leading edge, also better to not use the board to weigh it down, why? because as they wear from scratches and chips along the edges of the boards from hitting the ground when getting on/off board it will damage your kite when the material flutters against your board.


Im going to buy your second hand kites if you look after them this much!!
zarb
zarb
NSW
703 posts
NSW, 703 posts
12 Feb 2013 8:09pm
I just found a cool small sandbag in my Ozone C4 pack that I didn't know existed... I might start doing the same thing and weighing down my kite with that instead of just shovelling sand onto it.
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