What sized kite for 78kg beginner in SE Qld

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belldiver
belldiver
QLD
171 posts
QLD, 171 posts
14 Mar 2013 8:48pm
Hi All

Just wondering what sized kite for a newbie in Maroochydore Qld.
I've only had 2 lessons got up and riding 60m or so on second lesson. Still a long way to go.

My intention is to ride in the surf? On a surf board, been surfing for 30 years. So dont think i want to get into the whole tricks/ big air side? Should i buy a twin tip to continue learning from or buy a surfboard with straps, or put some straps in an old 6'6' I've snapped but had repaired that I dont use anymore??

trying to keep costs down.
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
14 Mar 2013 9:31pm
Re the Boards.
The majority of opinion is that sticking to a TT while you get yourself fully dialled with you kiting is the easiest road to follow. I tend to agree. If its a temporary thing then try to find any old TT thats way over size - eg a big old 150. Anything big will do the job & you wont lose anything in the changeover (big TTs hold their value).
BUT - others will say theres nothing wrong with going straight to a surfboard. IMO this would only hold true for those who are already accomplished short board paddle-in surfers.
TT's make it simpler & quicker - generally speaking.
When starting on your surfboard - first up or as a transition from TT - get yourself a biggish short board - say 6' +/-. Go strapless in flat water for a few hours or a few sessions till you get the difference from being propelled along by a wave to being pulled along by a kite - theres a big difference. Practice your turns, toeside & heelside etc etc till it all feels comfortable.
The hit the waves. Try it strapless at least once - you might find you never need straps. No loss if you want to go back to being strapped - for a while or forever.

Re the kite. Cant advise unless we know your weight. Generally one full size up from recommended 'just right' size for weight & conditions is a good move. Makes learning easier - slower kite - steadier winds. Then it leaves the way open to get a smaller kite once your big kite is TOO big on the day. Then go a full size down from that 'just right' size.
Hey Presto - you have the perfect quiver.

Good luck & remember - no-ones ever right or wrong as far as kiting goes. Different horses for different courses is definitely correct. Add in 'for different jockeys as well!!
gcdave
gcdave
534 posts
534 posts
14 Mar 2013 10:48pm
Call me old fashioned,but i highly recommend you spend more time on a TT. Use the winter time ahead to learn more kite control in lightish and stronger/gusty conditions to inprove ur skills.

Dont take it wrong,but it matters little to how much surf/snow/skate experience an individual has when their kite experience accumulates to buggar all.

Ur surf experience will show when ur skilled more with the kite,as u already now the ocean and how it ticks.

Having said that,you sound like ur on track already - welcome to the sport
gcdave
gcdave
534 posts
534 posts
14 Mar 2013 10:50pm
Forgot to mention,inskip at DI for flatwater during winter, and brand pending a 11m
fingerbone
fingerbone
NSW
921 posts
NSW, 921 posts
15 Mar 2013 9:08am
belldiver said...

Hi All
I've only had 2 lessons got up and riding 60m or so on second lesson.


G'day belldiver...Sounds like you are a natural.
I am still learning but a mate of mine who started kiting pretty much purely for the surf struggled trying to get it to click on a twinny,he got a board and was kickin butt in no time at all.
Each to there own I guess.
Cheers
Peterc150
Peterc150
VIC
710 posts
VIC, 710 posts
15 Mar 2013 2:27pm
On a surfboard (and in the surf) people often go down a kite size compared to a twintip. So if a 12 is your normal kite (twin tip) then you could consider getting a 9 or 10 for a surfboard. Ideally you could have both.

Possibly start with a 12 and a twintip. You need to get advice from locals - if the wind is often 25+ then a smaller kite would be the go.

Here is some indicative kite sizing info: kitesurfing-handbook.peterskiteboarding.com/progression/choosing-the-right-kite-size
shane75
shane75
QLD
209 posts
QLD, 209 posts
16 Mar 2013 5:43pm
hey mate you kiting at cotton tree area?, most guys there on surf boards are riding 10m kites also with each kite brand they usually have one designed for wave riding, Yes you could learn on a surf board but it might take a while even with your surf skills because the majority if this sport is 90% flying the kite and 10% board riding twin tips help you progress heaps faster cause there multi directional also you can get boards for your favoured style I have 2 boards an all terrain north xride and a 2012 Lw board called chopstick 154x43 has flip tips designed for choppy water which I dont use too often cause ive gone more freestyle now but when the waves are sweet I pull it out and head for the breaks, im actually gonna sell it so I can go buy myself a freestyle tt board
Oh yeah so if you just want one kite quiver go 10 or 11m or if you want bigger wind range then maybe go 7 and 11m kites if ya buy second hand like 2012 models you could get two for the price of one but just remember to inspect them so you know what your buying
surfingboye
surfingboye
NSW
2707 posts
NSW, 2707 posts
17 Mar 2013 12:04am
east coast winds and surfboard = a 10m kite.

my 10 is my biggest kite, if you need bigger its not worth going out.
be sure to add smaller kites as well once you get hooked.
i have 6,8,10.

belldiver
belldiver
QLD
171 posts
QLD, 171 posts
17 Mar 2013 12:49pm
Cheers guys I'm seriously looking at an 11 m north rebel. My concern is the 5 th line when I eventually get in the surf and tangles?

I think I can turn it into a 4 line anyway and I'm being sold on the safety aspect of learning.

Any thoughts would this be a drama once competent to hit the surf???
zarb
zarb
NSW
703 posts
NSW, 703 posts
17 Mar 2013 2:48pm
I'm fairly sure that the Rebel can't be converted to 4 lines.

If you want something that can be converted back and forth, get the Fuse.

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