Whats the oldest kite you can buy that still safe?

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Jukesy
Jukesy
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19 Feb 2015 8:37pm
G'day, looking at buying my first kite. What's the oldest kite I could buy without it being unsafe/bad?


Cheers, Jukesy
toppleover
toppleover
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19 Feb 2015 8:03pm
I think you mean cheapest kite I could buy without being unsafe - right ?

How abut telling us what you can afford & the good people on SB can see what they can dig up.
Craig66
Craig66
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19 Feb 2015 9:19pm
The one the shop has in stock from where your going to get lessons from, you can even use it while having lessons.
That way during the lessons on your new second hand kite you will learn how it flies.
And after a few more lessons you instructor will keep an eye out for you.

Sorry, have I used the word "lesson" too much ?

Let that be your first Lesson



Jukesy
Jukesy
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19 Feb 2015 9:26pm
toppleover said..
I think you mean cheapest kite I could buy without being unsafe - right ?

How abut telling us what you can afford & the good people on SB can see what they can dig up.



I'm still in high school and because I'm paying for lessons i can only spend around $350-400.
NickT
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19 Feb 2015 6:34pm
Don't buy the Benjamin Franklin model, it conducts lightening!
loftsofwind
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19 Feb 2015 8:39pm
Did a quick search for ya found this for 450$ with bar and lines included. Safety seems safe enough for beginner but idk if u want 5 line... Good luck www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Kitesurfing-Kites/~t6fqg/2010-North-Evo-10-metre.aspx?search=NEIcyx8LOaA!t7qcQIuwaw==
Jukesy
Jukesy
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19 Feb 2015 9:43pm
450 is pushing my budget to the max. Anything else? looks nice though.

Also, What are the main differences between 4 and 5 line kites?
loftsofwind
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19 Feb 2015 8:45pm
Have a geese in the buy and sell section, anything u can afford just post it on here and I’m sure people can say it will be good/bad for beginner. Juts look for a kite 2009-2015 year model
toppleover
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19 Feb 2015 8:46pm
Also did a quick search, you really want someone that knows kites to go with you to inspect.

www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Kitesurfing-Kites/~tfqsn/2011-Cabrinha-Switchblade-9-metre.aspx?search=NEIcyx8LOaDj5cTUeD8SKw==
gcdave
gcdave
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19 Feb 2015 6:48pm
Get some lessons, earn some coin here and there and save up for ur first setup.

By the time uve done ur lessons,this years gear will be cheap and the new windy season will start with u geared up on the water

It'll be worth it. Dont waste ur money on cheapo kite u know nothing about. Learn some **** first dude
Jukesy
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19 Feb 2015 9:49pm
and also i need a 10 meter kite.
Jukesy
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Jukesy
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19 Feb 2015 9:53pm
gcdave said..
Get some lessons, earn some coin here and there and save up for ur first setup.

By the time uve done ur lessons,this years gear will be cheap and the new windy season will start with u geared up on the water

It'll be worth it. Dont waste ur money on cheapo kite u know nothing about. Learn some **** first dude


Ive already had 5 hours of lessons and are doing 1 each weekend from now.
sotired
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19 Feb 2015 6:57pm
The general rule everyone seemed to be telling me was that a kite from 2009 on should be fine.

Having said that, I have a 2007 model that has the modern safety systems, so it seems you are better off getting someone that knows about them to help you find a cheap one that is still safe.
Jukesy
Jukesy
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19 Feb 2015 10:05pm
sotired said..
The general rule everyone seemed to be telling me was that a kite from 2009 on should be fine.

Having said that, I have a 2007 model that has the modern safety systems, so it seems you are better off getting someone that knows about them to help you find a cheap one that is still safe.


Yeah, thats so true.
Alysum
Alysum
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19 Feb 2015 11:49pm
Switchblades have the IDS since 2009 which is a good indication. However 6 year old kites can have an awful lot of wear...
loftsofwind
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19 Feb 2015 11:14pm


Nah mate the North Vegas is a 5 line C- Kite --> you will frustrate yourself getting this type of kite. look at the list that was said on the other forum post u started
KiteBud
KiteBud
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19 Feb 2015 11:08pm
Kites are only as safe as the person using it... The same goes with safety systems, if you don't know how they work and haven't been using them during professional lessons chances are you won't use them or know what to do after using them when you actually need them...

Low budget beginners tend to be the most dangerous of all learners. They often get outdated equipment that doesn't peform well and is out of tune. That combined with no lessons or cheap lessons or friends "teaching" and you have the perfect combination for accidents. I know because I was one of them many years ago and went through hell and back trying to learn and wouldn't wish this to anyone now...
pattiecannon
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20 Feb 2015 11:33am
loftsofwind said..




Nah mate the North Vegas is a 5 line C- Kite --> you will frustrate yourself getting this type of kite. look at the list that was said on the other forum post u started


Looks like a bargain to me m8!
A m8 bought the 2014 and loves it.
They look heaps different though....
Vegas has a good rep as a sick kite
so for 3hunge why not!
Jukesy
Jukesy
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20 Feb 2015 2:20pm
Ive figured out I need a 12m so it won't really be good for me.
puppetonastring
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21 Feb 2015 12:16am
You dont want a Vegas at any price. Or any other C kite.
Deltas or Hybrids only for ease of learning & safety. Nothing pre 2008 for safety & performance.

Need your weight & where you will be kiting if you want any serious advice.
Why cant your instructor sort something ideal for you?
pattiecannon
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21 Feb 2015 7:33pm
Hey Puppet go have a nanna nap m8.
The vegas is not a 2009 fuel bro, it has delta tips, relaunches great and is not twitchy or crazy in the air unlike a lot of hybrids I know of.
It's very similar to a rebel which tons of newbs own.
The vegas has a great wind range also unlike a lot of hyrids and bows. It's a five line so it's a cinch to land and it's only 3 greenies.
There are more worse kites out there than better ones than the vegas IMHO. They're light on the bar. My m8 has been kiting 4 months and loves his 10.
They're an awesome kite.
With a big twinnie you'd be out heaps on this. Not as much as on a 12 but....
fingerbone
fingerbone
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22 Feb 2015 8:51pm
toppleover said..
Also did a quick search, you really want someone that knows kites to go with you to inspect.

www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Kitesurfing-Kites/~tfqsn/2011-Cabrinha-Switchblade-9-metre.aspx?search=NEIcyx8LOaDj5cTUeD8SKw==


+1
BrisKites
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23 Feb 2015 11:30am
Almost any kite of any age is safe, it's the pilot you need to worry about
Jukesy
Jukesy
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23 Feb 2015 2:03pm
I was using a 12 but their were 2 other guys who were 85kg+
Loftywinds
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25 Feb 2015 12:53pm
Jukesy said..
I was using a 12 but their were 2 other guys who were 85kg+


Jukesy, you seem to asking a lot of questions in Sbrz about what kite, what price, can I afford it, who to teach me, etc etc...

Please do yourself a favor and go and see Steve at KSS Altona (plug intended). Seriously, he has good gear, "affordable" (you will need to spend somewhere around the high 000's) and great advice. He taught himself by the way, so it's not impossible. Yeah, lessons are great but really... can you afford $100+ a pop? All you need to learn is the safety, wind window, self rescue, body drag and kite control. 2 to 3 lessons should be enough if you are a quick learner. The rest, it's practice practice practice

I just want you to know that I feel for your situation. I too started like you, asked and pestered with thousands of questions, trolled (still do! ) and got answers. In the end I ended up buying 2nd hand gear because I wanted to try everything I could - even foil kites, and eventually ended up with around 5 quivers of various sizes.

You don't need to buy new!

BUT, it's true: it's all about economies of scale and you will sped more money repairing, or repairing it yourself with and without some success, BUT you will have an awesome time learning and trying out all sorts of kites - AND learning the sport at the same time. Most people don't go down this path. They buy once, sell, and buy again and spend thousands!! They try and keep up to date with the equipment. That's all fine and well if you're on a doctor's salary. I know of guys that walk into a shop, bought all their gear up front - cash! But it costed like over $5000 - kites, boards, harnesses and some videos thrown in because the shop owner creamed himself! It happens.

I did that once - buy up front when I started because I was on a high salary, but my circumstances changed, I was still determined to learn and had to sell my gear as they were too small and I was frustrated I could not go out kiting in under 18 knots. I prefer flat water, cruisy style of kiting with some jumping. I guess it's my longboard history riding small waves out at Torquay and just having fun without the addiction to adrenalin. Yeah old man stuff!

Anyway, I think you're onto a great adventure with kiting Jukes. I salute you. You will learn a lot more than most, I guarantee it.
Jukesy
Jukesy
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25 Feb 2015 2:16pm
Cheers man
bfg
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25 Feb 2015 5:41pm
+1 for Steve.

I got my gear from him and he's been helpful all the way along. He has great product knowledge and explains things to people new to the sport in a clear and simple way.


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