WA
25 posts
Did some searches but mainly found stuff about line stretching
Just wondering is there any effect in different wind conditions was just wondering if less wind should run shorter lines etc?
Just noticed yesterday at pinaroo a few kiters ( not aks training ones) running what looked like quite short lines in the light wind conditions vs my kites 24 meter ones
WA
925 posts
Hey Scottiesurf,
Messing around with line length is something that very few people seem to do. For the few that do experiment, there can be a treasure trove of goodness to be found within the same kite you have been playing with for ages.
Longer Lines
Lengthening your lines extends the bottom end wind range of your kite by a couple of knots and is effective up to about 35 m lines (add 10's to your 25's). This will be about the maximum useable length before steering becomes too spongey and drag starts to hold the kite so far downwind that upwind riding becomes difficult on anything but raceboards. Lengthening lines extends the size of your wind window giving you longer power strokes both up and mostly down keeping your kite in the power zone longer. Drag from wind over the lines also holds the kite back deeper in the wind window to give the feel of more power although at a loss of upwind ability.
Shorter lines
Lines can be used down to about a minimum usable length of around 18m. Shorter is still possible but the kites become difficult to fly and their wind range goes up dramatically as does the loss of their low end power. Shorter lines than standard work in the exact opposite to long lines. Because your wind window is smaller the kite has a much smaller power zone within the wind window. This can be helpful in over powered conditions. The reduction in drag created by wind across the shorter lines results in the kite sitting much further up into the wind or more into the neutral zone giving much increased top end wind range. It also makes the time it takes for the kite to go from one side of the wind window to the other to be less. Steering becomes more responsive as there is no droop in lines.
Keep in mind that shorter lines and small wind window can become unusable as the kite is same saize and it's turning radius is same size as normal. On 5 m lines it is impossible to dive the kite into the power as it hits the ground before the kite can make the turn.
Short lines are fun for a more extreme kite loop in over powered conditions (watch the Core kite riders loop on short lines to see what I mean in their promo vids on you tube).
Best bet is to get yourself a set of 5m extensions and start with a 20m line set. Heaps of fun!
DM
WA
995 posts
Having a bar set up with 20m lines as well as my standard 25s allow me a little more versatility. For example, I've got a 7, 10, 12 quiver. The 7 is really only useful in over 27knots at my weight/skill level on 25m lines. The 10 starts to get pretty overpowered at 24-28 depending on how much chop there is. Rigging the bar with 20m lines allows me to hold down the 10m in those conditions where the 7m wouldn't be quite enough. It also makes the 10m very fast and really fun to fly.
WA
25 posts
Ok cool that's given me a better picture of things
So might pay to have a shorter line setup for those windy days where my 10m is near the end of it's wind window !
Thanks
179 posts
This is interesting. Does anybody have any data.
I am 75 kilos I own a 9 meter crossbow. When winds get over 30 knots I tend to be yelling holy fuuuuuuu and dont fly.
I currently run the 22 meter lines, if I went to 18 meter and got capability to do 25 and 30m any ideas.
Thanks
Note: FAA rules say I cant go beyond 30m