Wondering about lost boards

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Peterdj
Peterdj
VIC
139 posts
VIC, 139 posts
3 Jan 2012 12:18pm
Hi everyone , happy new year.

Ive been reading all i can about this sport and was wondering about all the lost boards that get posted about.
Is that because riders lose them on the water or just losing them because they have forgot them.

cheers
SpawnofFossl
SpawnofFossl
SA
116 posts
SA, 116 posts
3 Jan 2012 1:19pm
A little from column A. A little from column B.

Moral to the story is write your name and number on the board somewhere and don't get a board leash.

If you want to know why not to get a board leash then search these forums for multiple threads.
Subculture
Subculture
443 posts
443 posts
3 Jan 2012 11:29am
Hi Peter,

As the previous post says, it's a bit of both.

One of the main things that happens is most beginners are pushed onto a board too quickly - by their own demands, peer pressure or possibly an instructor promising 'third lesson riding on board'

Student goes off smiling because they got up on a board for 10 seconds, (hey, who wouldn't?) But when they go out on own, they inevitably 'stack it' and the reality slowly dawns that they cannot get back upwind to their board... That is, if they had lessons. If they had no lessons, which seems to be the growing brainless trend - run before you can even crawl, then it's just a disaster waiting to happen, in too many ways - with too many personally witnessed examples to even go into here..

One of the best (and rare to see) things you can practise is lots of upwind body dragging. It'll save your board pretty much every time and improve your kite flying skills a lot too.

I guess it doesn't 'look cool' or they get nasty salty water in their faces though...

A well executed and structured plan always yields better results, I'm sure you'll appreciate. The domain of the thinker.

Good luck.
RPM
RPM
WA
1549 posts
RPM RPM
WA, 1549 posts
3 Jan 2012 11:41am
it's because they are not competent. That's why people mainly lose their boards.

They spend too much time trying to stand up before squaring away basic techniques. I also read the lost and found and see a heap of boards lost. If people spent more time perfecting their body dragging and board recovery then lost boards wouldn't be a problem.

Subculture is right on the money. Students thinking they will be up and riding after 3 lessons is BS. But this seems to be the case with learners taking lessons at Melville/Pt Walter. Sure you might have a small 10m run and faceplant but is this riding? Riding compromises of many aspects and this includes board recovery. Noobs should do the first 2 lessons and then go away for a few weeks on their own and put the skills to use properly before thing about waterstarts. 2-3 weeks of body dragging and board recovery, combined with perfecting land and launch/self rescue will give them a good base for getting up on the board later.

Subculture
Subculture
443 posts
443 posts
3 Jan 2012 1:26pm
Laughed at your first sentence RPM - It's exactly that! And there I was trying to be polite with my reply

Also totally agree with what you wrote. People try to rush too much, it shi#s me! As you said, go away and practise the skills you paid good money to learn. Consolidate - before try to go further.

I can remember doing so many 'waterstarts' on dry land with a trainer kite at the beginning even! If you can't fly a trainer, one handed, with your eyes shut, I'd say you're gonna struggle with everything that goes on in the water.
Peterdj
Peterdj
VIC
139 posts
VIC, 139 posts
3 Jan 2012 5:09pm
Thanks for that .
Ill be getting lessons once the finance minister has aquired other items first.

In a way what youre saying is almost a chicken or egg question.

Do you get a kite then lessons (not use it till you have had a lesson) so that you can practice the things like body dragging once you know the basics.

Do you get a kite once you have had a lesson (and been advised on size etc) and have been taught the safety aspects plus dragging and then practice the water stuff (body dragging) before the final up on board lesson? ( probably the preferred one)

Or do you wait till you have done the lessons then buy the gear. Then go out and ride and probably not bother to practice more basic stuff better cos you consider that you did the lessons and you dont have to.

I wouldnt fancy losing a board early on because of not being able to do something properly.
Im not fussed either way if i get up as fast as possible or not, as long as i can do what needs to be done when i need to do it, like get to the board thats scooting away with the current.
gunny11
gunny11
VIC
51 posts
VIC, 51 posts
5 Jan 2012 3:52pm
Peterdj said...

Thanks for that .
Ill be getting lessons once the finance minister has aquired other items first.

In a way what youre saying is almost a chicken or egg question.

Do you get a kite then lessons (not use it till you have had a lesson) so that you can practice the things like body dragging once you know the basics.

Do you get a kite once you have had a lesson (and been advised on size etc) and have been taught the safety aspects plus dragging and then practice the water stuff (body dragging) before the final up on board lesson? ( probably the preferred one)

Or do you wait till you have done the lessons then buy the gear. Then go out and ride and probably not bother to practice more basic stuff better cos you consider that you did the lessons and you dont have to.

I wouldnt fancy losing a board early on because of not being able to do something properly.
Im not fussed either way if i get up as fast as possible or not, as long as i can do what needs to be done when i need to do it, like get to the board thats scooting away with the current.



...Having just done it, I can say this order worked perfectly for me.

Trainer Kite - few weekends
Lessons - few days
Buy gear
Practice upwind dragging more - few weekends. (Leave board at home)
Ride - weeks.

I've done more board recovery than I can count, esp while learning. A mate of mine lost two boards when he couldn't body drag to em. $$$


Peterdj
Peterdj
VIC
139 posts
VIC, 139 posts
5 Jan 2012 5:24pm
Thanks gunny.
I certainly don't want to turn what could be a great passtime into one of those couldnt be bothered things (or just cant) because you dont have enough cash to keep buying lost stuff.
Thanks for the advice
rhysd89
rhysd89
QLD
3 posts
QLD, 3 posts
5 Jan 2012 7:32pm
Hey Peter I have also started kiting and currently getting up and trying to stay up. When starting get as much time on a trainer as you can because you will find everything else (body dragging, board recovery, riding the board ect) relys on your kite flying skill. You will also get alot more out of your paid lessons if you have the basic kite flying skills sorted, remember a big kite works off the same principals as a trainer kite. Talk to your local kite shops as they will be able to help you and some may give free lessons with purchase of gear, I didn't do this and bought crap gear wasting $500.
Thats all the advice i got good luck and enjoy
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