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musikl
musikl
NSW
63 posts
NSW, 63 posts
6 Nov 2012 11:47pm
Hey,
I'm planning to get a lightwind kite (less?, 7-15kts, Malaysian conditions) but I can't really decide which kite to get. I've done some research and this is what I came out with:
- Big Mama 14.5m (2012)
- Lithium 14m (2013)
- Lithium One 16m (2013)
- FLY 15m (2013)
I'm still a beginner, learning how to ride upwind properly. I'm hoping to get into wave riding. Freeride and some freestyle are fine too when theres no wave.
Currently, I ride 135 tt, and will be getting a 6'2" surfboard soon.
I also have a 12m Bolt for 15-22kts.
I'm leaning more to FLY just because I can use the same bar. (But there isn't a lot of distributors around SEA region)
I weigh 70kg. 6' tall.
Could you guys offer some advice on my choice please? If you know other kites that are suitable for this type of riding, please share .
Thanks!!
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
1615 posts
WA, 1615 posts
6 Nov 2012 10:00pm
Light wind kiting requires skills and experience first, then the right gear. I have never seen any beginners of your level actually get up and ride and enjoy a sub 15 knots day, even with bigger kites. What I do see on those days is a lot of kites down in the water, not relaunching and people swimming back to the shore for ages... I understand you don't have much choice to go out in light winds where you are, but I hope you have shallow water so it can be easier to relaunch your kite and get out of trouble. Spend some time on your 12m kite in 14-15 knots and make sure you can relaunch it and become more efficient with the equipment you already have. A surfboard will give you an advantage in light winds after you learn to ride it and jibe it properly (which takes a while...)

Once you get more experience a 14-16m kite will get you to enjoy the 12-15 knots days better, but it'll take a while before you can have fun in sub 12 knots days without dramas.

Hope this helps
Kazan
Kazan
QLD
699 posts
QLD, 699 posts
7 Nov 2012 10:41pm
Correct cbu. I am a relative beginner too and sub 17knots for me is beginning to be a waste of time. My kite falls, or I have to control it vigorously all the time just to get going. 20 to 25 knots are truly ideal conditions for most beginners and intermediates I think. Of course kite size, weight, the usual always prevails. I think there is this misconception that the light winds are good for beginners because of the less risk of lofting and other accidents. But I am beginning to think light winds equates to small sub 3 foot waves where you have to paddle harder and pump the board more to catch the waves.
musikl
musikl
NSW
63 posts
NSW, 63 posts
8 Nov 2012 12:23am
Thanks for the response cbulota.
Totally agree with you. I have been playing around with the kite at 12-15kts. I find that anything lower than 12kts my bolt wouldnt stay up, even with moving it across the window (i didnt use the extension lines tho). I think its just cause the kite is really heavy compared to other 12m. I managed to plane at 15kts easily with my tt, but yeah i still dont have the skill to go upwind properly to get the apparent wind. Im comfortable with hot launches at this range, and the launch where the leading edge is facing down, and you just pull both rear lines so that the kite fly backwards (fun, but the kite sometimes collapse).
I'm eager to get more water time so that I can get more experience. But with the lack of medium and high winds at my area, I thought having a bigger kite might just do the trick.

Kazan, you can always have fun with a malibu in small sub 3 foot waves. Same principle with the kite? ehehe
kovi
kovi
VIC
122 posts
VIC, 122 posts
9 Nov 2012 1:11am
I think fly comes with longer than normal lines as well
shane75
shane75
QLD
209 posts
QLD, 209 posts
23 Dec 2012 9:28pm
cbulota said...
Light wind kiting requires skills and experience first, then the right gear. I have never seen any beginners of your level actually get up and ride and enjoy a sub 15 knots day, even with bigger kites. What I do see on those days is a lot of kites down in the water, not relaunching and people swimming back to the shore for ages... I understand you don't have much choice to go out in light winds where you are, but I hope you have shallow water so it can be easier to relaunch your kite and get out of trouble. Spend some time on your 12m kite in 14-15 knots and make sure you can relaunch it and become more efficient with the equipment you already have. A surfboard will give you an advantage in light winds after you learn to ride it and jibe it properly (which takes a while...)

Once you get more experience a 14-16m kite will get you to enjoy the 12-15 knots days better, but it'll take a while before you can have fun in sub 12 knots days without dramas.

Hope this helps


Started mid sept this year been out maybe 16 times 85kgs bought 19m core xr2 last week went out yesterday 10-12knts and was trucking upwind so well that didn't even notice I was miles away from my start point so had to come back downwind. Took me about 30 mins to work out how to fly it because there really different from my f_one b4's but once you do omg what a great time I had.
Dl33ta
Dl33ta
TAS
463 posts
TAS, 463 posts
24 Dec 2012 1:11am
I've just started this season and have had a ton of fun with my Blade Fat Lady 17m. I'm 95kg 6'7" and in 9-15 kts I'll either use a SB or Spleene monster door. I'm only using 19m lines at the moment as well which seems to keep the kite nimble. You have to really work it in the lower wind ranges until you get some apparent wind going but from then on its park and go. I'm not up to jumping yet but on my timid turns it seems to want to pull me up ok. Mostly I just like to say I'm going to ride my fat lady ;-)

Depends on how you define newbie I guess but light wind work is definitely within reach of someone who has a few months behind them, e.g. me. One thing I would suggest that helped me out is go out on a couple of 12-15 kts days with your 11 or 12 and your normal board. It gave me a real feel for what I had to do with the kite and body/leg position over the board. If you don't bring yourself back in over the board in the luls it's hard work, and if u don't keep the kite moving in the 8-10 range, with the FL anyway you're sunk.

I think this years Blade has a better bar coming than the budget direct one that came with my 2012 model. Apart from that the FL is light, nimble and pretty tough to stand up to my shinnaningans! I also think being able to go out in all ranges accelerates your learning, was out today at Golden Beach and had the place to myself, priceless! www.bom.gov.au/products/IDQ60801/IDQ60801.94581.shtml (1300-1500).
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