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kkoc3
kkoc3
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1 Jan 2011 10:25pm
hi guys

i am done with my lessons
did my research
bought my gear

however every time i think of going to kitesurfing i am scared ??? i am scared of being mocked as in i see all these ppl doing awesome tricks and stuff and me on the other hand can barely stand on board.

i am scared i might land my kite on someone or crash it into someone else's kite ??

i hate this feeling

Taurus
Taurus
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189 posts
VIC, 189 posts
1 Jan 2011 11:22pm
Check out St Kilda on a cooler day and earlier in the day (before 5pm). There will be no other beach users and only a few other kiters most of whom are beginners too.
koma
koma
VIC
760 posts
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2 Jan 2011 12:54am
1. Well done on realising that your learning curve is a steep one and for taking the responsibility for your own actions. Your one of the rare few beginners that come to that realisation before an incident/accident.
2. Take your gear along to the beach that you learnt at, have a chat with your old instructor and mention that your having trouble getting the courage up.
3. Everybody starts at the beginning. Get a couple of successful sessions under your belt and you'll never look back. By the end of this summer you'll be crusing around wondering why you found it so hard to begin with!

djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
2 Jan 2011 1:01am
If you're seriously that nervous just get a couple more lessons. There's no shame in that and it will get you up and going faster, more safely and with more confidence. You still ultimately have to work it all out yourself, and take whatever beatings mother nature and your own mistakes dish out, but from the sounds of it a couple more lessons would be money well spent.

You don't have to worry about more experienced kiters. We can spot a noob a mile off and stay well clear. What you do need is the skills to keep yourself and the general public safe.

Don't fear being mocked, fear being dragged into solid objects or injuring an innocent bystander.

Keep learning. It should be exciting, but not frightening.
prea
prea
QLD
184 posts
QLD, 184 posts
2 Jan 2011 8:12am
Find a kite buddy
It is so reassurring to know some one is looking out for you and vise versa
BennyB12
BennyB12
QLD
918 posts
QLD, 918 posts
2 Jan 2011 8:26am
everyone goes through this. its natural.... my advice is fly your kite as much as possible and one day you will realize that you control the kite and not the other way round.. this is the first of many awesome moments that you will give out a involuntary hoot and cause post session perma- smile..
Its all about the conditions too. Its nice to push yourself into stronger winds and bigger surf as you progress but if your not comfortable then pack it up and watch for a while... Ive been kiting for many seasons and I still get butterflies, its a good thing...
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
2 Jan 2011 10:21am
ther'es nothing like a light wind day for a beginner .My advice to my students is don't be afraid to take a step backwards and really nail your kite skills before adding the board .Light wind days will challenge your flying skills and you will develop great kite skills that will transfer to the higher wind days and the board .You will have the place to yourself or other beginners and probably make some friends and find fellow noobs that you can hook up with and not feel so alone you will be much less likely to neck yourself or someone else too .Good luck
deXtrous
deXtrous
NSW
451 posts
NSW, 451 posts
2 Jan 2011 3:28pm
I love seeing complete newbs out on the water, gives you something to look at/silently laugh at. Of course we were all at that stage at one point so there's no hard feelings felt towards you guys.

Just don't ride the line where the better riders ride and they wont care at all, just go down wind and sort yourself out in peace.

ApatheticEnd
ApatheticEnd
WA
995 posts
WA, 995 posts
2 Jan 2011 12:54pm
You'll find someone else just like you on pretty much any day down at the beach. Find a couple people you like to kite with and you'll be fine. You'll be riding along and boosting in no time.

Have fun and be safe.
kkoc3
kkoc3
VIC
12 posts
VIC, 12 posts
2 Jan 2011 8:18pm
thanks for the massive support guys . i wasn't expecting so many words of wisdom .
i am going for 1 more lesson tomorrow just to boost up my confidence . i have posted an add for kitesurfing buddy in the hookup section as well . i will try and some successful sessions under my belt by end of next week .

will post how i went , once again thanks for all help guys
grillsy
grillsy
QLD
31 posts
QLD, 31 posts
4 Jan 2011 5:56pm
Gday Mate..I know exactly where you are at..I have had some some lessons, got some gear and actually had some short rides which was pretty cool...but then went out on a day way too strong (away from others as usual) and got smashed. Lost my nerve after that...Not keen to be in the general vicinity of other riders, always making excuses why I cant go out....even though there have been some fantastic days since for guys at our level I have not been in the water for about 6 weeks. Looking to pluck it up this weekend as weather looks good.

Be interested to see how you go...I will post on my progress...Maybe inspire each other a bit..

Cheers
Jared888
Jared888
WA
389 posts
WA, 389 posts
6 Jan 2011 11:17am
Funny how things we luv scare the *#*# out of us

my advise is to just get your gear out and walk to safe spot and set it up, then take it from there. Hopefully youll be suprised sounds like your preparation has been good.

If you dont have anyone to go with I used a large star picket with some fluro tape around it and carried a hammer, I would set up and see how kite looked at edge of window it is hard not to go from there good luck

axis
axis
VIC
399 posts
VIC, 399 posts
8 Jan 2011 11:02am
Where is your local beach?
I'd say practice kite flying as much as possible, body drag, walk back and repeat to get used to the kite movement - really helps with kite flying.

introduce yourself to some people - let them know you are new and they will probably appreciate the heads up and let you know the best spot on the beach for you to ensure you are safe and not going to get caught in the middle of heaps of kites.

We all started at sometime - in fact some of the best sessions I ever had were learning on downwinders.
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
8 Jan 2011 12:16pm
Mr float said...

ther'es nothing like a light wind day for a beginner .My advice to my students is don't be afraid to take a step backwards and really nail your kite skills before adding the board .Light wind days will challenge your flying skills and you will develop great kite skills that will transfer to the higher wind days and the board .You will have the place to yourself or other beginners and probably make some friends and find fellow noobs that you can hook up with and not feel so alone you will be much less likely to neck yourself or someone else too .Good luck


^^Absolutely true. Light winds days are great to get to know a kite and practice flying safely. There will come a day when you're out the back and the wind drops to sub 10 knots and you'll have to keep the kite in the air to get back to shore. Light wind days will teach these skills.
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
8 Jan 2011 1:07pm
^^^ What they said.

Remember that every single person kiting was a massive newb once, then chuckle to yourself as you picture the person who just threw down a massive trick being kooky in his "earlier days"
Paradox
Paradox
QLD
1326 posts
QLD, 1326 posts
10 Jan 2011 6:28pm
Grillsy - I know where you are at. A bad spanking really feeds that stone in the guts. Then you are too gun shy to go out by yourself and too nervous to go near others. Catch 22.

However you did mention it was too strong and perhaps was a good lesson - others take note.

Just take a step back, do some body dragging if needed to reconnect with the kite. Don't go out if you think it is too strong. Take it easy and don't put pressure on yourself to progress for a session or two. Ask your instructor if there are any others he has taught recently and you can hook up with to go together.

Good luck guys and keep at it, you will be ripping it up in no time.
dafunk
dafunk
QLD
561 posts
QLD, 561 posts
10 Jan 2011 7:55pm
if in doubt, in medium winds get a smaller kite [you can use it later in strong winds]
or if $$ strapped set up in less power mode .
go the lighter conditions
be safe 1st
keen 2nd
we all need courage if theres enough wind
grillsy
grillsy
QLD
31 posts
QLD, 31 posts
11 Jan 2011 1:16pm
Thanks Paradox......Thats the plan...take a step back to basics and take it from there...Waited till I was 45 to give this a go so whats the rush,

Appreciate the support
chelles888
chelles888
WA
100 posts
WA, 100 posts
11 Jan 2011 11:46am
lol glad i'm the not only one.....i am so god damn keen but so friggin nervous at the same time especially of being mocked or just generally stuffing up majorly...i certainly am not in the frame of mind that this sport is easy, i know how dangerous it is, thats why i have spent countless hours watching from the beach and will watch many more. I also joined our local WACK's and feel that I will get some much needed confidence through the girls there also. As a newbie I think it would help for you to definately find a buddy, start going out in the quieter times till you are really confident and before long you'll be having a blast:0) hope it helps:0)
kkoc3
kkoc3
VIC
12 posts
VIC, 12 posts
11 Jan 2011 3:46pm
just an update guys

did my lesson however didn't get on to the board

since then i have been to beach numerous time and watch what ppl are exactly doing

past few days have been either too windy or no wind at all therefore i am waiting for that perfect day .
rumblefish
rumblefish
TAS
824 posts
TAS, 824 posts
11 Jan 2011 4:23pm
Hey kkoc,

In a similar situation, just had my first 2 hour lesson in which I flew the kite but wind was light.
Hopefully get a bit more breeze for body dragging etc. next time.

I am 82kg and have a BIG learner board and harness and am currenly looking for a 8-9m kite to learn on.

The hardest thought for me is needing to be on a beach with other kiters to help launch/land but dragging my kite through other kiters while getting the hang of it!!

RF
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
VIC, 2777 posts
11 Jan 2011 10:29pm
Even on light wind days practice flying your kite on the beach ( assuming your beach is suitable Ie: no one on it )
when I first started I spent so much time sitting at the beach after work waiting for the seabreeze it became laughable.... The good thing about that was, once it came in I had the beach and water to myself for a good half hour to an hour... Where I was free to kook it up as much as I liked.

jas73
jas73
QLD
796 posts
QLD, 796 posts
11 Jan 2011 9:59pm
Never feel unsure about asking for a launch or land as thats what kiting is all about. Everyone looks out for each other to keep it as safe as possible.
rumblefish said...

Hey kkoc,

In a similar situation, just had my first 2 hour lesson in which I flew the kite but wind was light.
Hopefully get a bit more breeze for body dragging etc. next time.

I am 82kg and have a BIG learner board and harness and am currenly looking for a 8-9m kite to learn on.

The hardest thought for me is needing to be on a beach with other kiters to help launch/land but dragging my kite through other kiters while getting the hang of it!!

RF


Lebowski
Lebowski
VIC
87 posts
VIC, 87 posts
12 Jan 2011 5:05pm
Hi kkoc3,

You will find that anybody who mocks you on the beach (although I have not seen this happen) or gives you a hard time about learning generally does not know what they are doing themselves, stay away from them they are dangerous, most people are really freindly and stoked to see new people enjoying the sport and the instructors down at St Kilda are always willing to help and give advise even when your not having a lesson.
Joing the K.R kite Club is also a good way to progress under a more controlled situation and you will meet some cool people.
WhooshkA
WhooshkA
WA
46 posts
WA, 46 posts
13 Jan 2011 6:18pm
Hey kk,

Persistence pays, so get out there. Going back to where you learned is best; a familiar setting, people, and guidance. Getting out in light wind also helps, you can learn heaps in light wind.

I remember my first month. My harness ripping my ribs skyward, hours untangling lines, legs on fire from horrendous beach walks of shame, struggling to see my lost board through burning eyes, and salt water pouring out of every orifice for days! I even got air body dragging and hit the water so hard that my boardies blew apart - still have 'em as a memento - it was so much fun!

I used to think the lesson book one should be re-written:
1. Add 5kg of salt to 10l of water and drink.
2. Place ten kilometers of string in the washer and then untangle.
3. Squeeze a tube of sunscreen into your eyes hourly.
4. Wrap barb wire around your ribs and run a marathon.
5. Do all the above naked at a public beach.
When you can achieve all this, simultaneously, with a huge smile and boundless excitable pleasure, then consider a kite surfing lesson.

The moral of the story is that you can overcome whatever it is you want to overcome, but you have to give it 150%! You are so engrossed that fear is transcended. You will find yourself in the moment, with the dolphins, wind, and a setting sun and realize 'hey, I am just so happy, there is nothing but this moment'. A super awareness prevails. And then one day you forget you are even flying a kite as all becomes one in time and space...!

Just do it! Cheers
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
14 Jan 2011 12:47pm
WhooshkA said...

Hey kk,

Persistence pays, so get out there. Going back to where you learned is best; a familiar setting, people, and guidance. Getting out in light wind also helps, you can learn heaps in light wind.

I remember my first month. My harness ripping my ribs skyward, hours untangling lines, legs on fire from horrendous beach walks of shame, struggling to see my lost board through burning eyes, and salt water pouring out of every orifice for days! I even got air body dragging and hit the water so hard that my boardies blew apart - still have 'em as a memento - it was so much fun!

I used to think the lesson book one should be re-written:
1. Add 5kg of salt to 10l of water and drink.
2. Place ten kilometers of string in the washer and then untangle.
3. Squeeze a tube of sunscreen into your eyes hourly.
4. Wrap barb wire around your ribs and run a marathon.
5. Do all the above naked at a public beach.
When you can achieve all this, simultaneously, with a huge smile and boundless excitable pleasure, then consider a kite surfing lesson.

The moral of the story is that you can overcome whatever it is you want to overcome, but you have to give it 150%! You are so engrossed that fear is transcended. You will find yourself in the moment, with the dolphins, wind, and a setting sun and realize 'hey, I am just so happy, there is nothing but this moment'. A super awareness prevails. And then one day you forget you are even flying a kite as all becomes one in time and space...!

Just do it! Cheers



Pretty awesome list for the lesson book Can I add a few helpful hints.

1. Add 5kg of salt to 10l of water and drink. Learn to exhale water through your nose.
2. Place ten kilometers of string in the washer and then untangle. This one should diminish with time.
3. Squeeze a tube of sunscreen into your eyes hourly. Ella Bashe make a water resistant sunscreen for faces that won't burn the eyes.
4. Wrap barb wire around your ribs and run a marathon. Seat harness
5. Do all the above naked at a public beach. Wetsuit in any weather.
funkz
funkz
VIC
2 posts
VIC, 2 posts
14 Jan 2011 11:10pm
BennyB12 said...

everyone goes through this. its natural.... my advice is fly your kite as much as possible and one day you will realize that you control the kite and not the other way round.. this is the first of many awesome moments that you will give out a involuntary hoot and cause post session perma- smile..


I dig how you said one day you'll realise that you control the kite not the other way around. I was thinking about this a few weeks ago, wondering about this as I can start to feel it.

I am a noob as well, spent a good few days out at Brighton and Altona. I started back in March with a mate of mine who has been kiting 3 years. So he taught me, and sold me his old board and 9m+12m X-Bows. It's totally awesome to know someone who can teach you, and have the patience to teach you! Now he's overseas and I have another kiting buddy who I met, and has been helping me out. I only go out when we go together, as I need the confidence of having a mate with me.
And 2 weeks ago we were out at Altona, had the whole beach to ourselves, it was awesome. I was carving back and fourth, practising turns and going 'left' (I am goofy on my snowboard and find going 'right' (goofy?) at Altona way easier). It was the first time I've really kept it going and I felt this juice flowing which I loved. I'm totally getting hooked now.

But yeah I didn't go at all from about May-Dec last year as one day at Altona I had been trying to stand up on the board, then was standing on the beach recovering (muscles) and I caught a gust, kinda lost control and cut myself loose in panic. Kite fell toward the power lines so I cut the safety loose. Kite fell off the power lines went on the road and got hooked onto a car which drove off and cut my lines (I was on the other side waving my arms around). I felt **** after that and pretty nervous to go out again, so I got KBV membership (PL insurance) and got some balls back and learned not to stand on the beach for too long!

I think geting over your own fears is the hardest thing about kiting. It's been a decent challenge for me, more-so than learning to snowboard. Having a kite strapped to you which (referring to my first paragraph) you feel like is controlling you, and could pick you up pretty easily, is hard to get used to. kkoc3: keep at it man, I am slowly getting there and it just comes down to persevering and practice. As time goes on you get over your own fears. I've also found other kiters on the beach to be amazingly approachable and friendly, never had any complaints. My mate is always going off and chatting to some other unknown kiter. It's a real community spirit out there. That's also what I love about it.
Jared888
Jared888
WA
389 posts
WA, 389 posts
15 Jan 2011 5:30pm
WhooshkA said...

Hey kk,

Persistence pays, so get out there. Going back to where you learned is best; a familiar setting, people, and guidance. Getting out in light wind also helps, you can learn heaps in light wind.

I remember my first month. My harness ripping my ribs skyward, hours untangling lines, legs on fire from horrendous beach walks of shame, struggling to see my lost board through burning eyes, and salt water pouring out of every orifice for days! I even got air body dragging and hit the water so hard that my boardies blew apart - still have 'em as a memento - it was so much fun!

I used to think the lesson book one should be re-written:
1. Add 5kg of salt to 10l of water and drink.
2. Place ten kilometers of string in the washer and then untangle.
3. Squeeze a tube of sunscreen into your eyes hourly.
4. Wrap barb wire around your ribs and run a marathon.
5. Do all the above naked at a public beach.
When you can achieve all this, simultaneously, with a huge smile and boundless excitable pleasure, then consider a kite surfing lesson.

The moral of the story is that you can overcome whatever it is you want to overcome, but you have to give it 150%! You are so engrossed that fear is transcended. You will find yourself in the moment, with the dolphins, wind, and a setting sun and realize 'hey, I am just so happy, there is nothing but this moment'. A super awareness prevails. And then one day you forget you are even flying a kite as all becomes one in time and space...!

Just do it! Cheers




Luv it nicely put WooshaKA
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