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New Board Delta Designs Revamp

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Created by Windindaface Two weeks ago, 5 Jun 2017
Windindaface
1 posts
5 Jun 2017 6:13PM
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Bit of Background.
Long time surfer.
I have been Kiting since 2005.
Riding only surfboards since 2010ish when I got onto a Rebel.
Location Central Qld. So mainly wind slop.
Weight 90 Kilos.
Board Marty Littlewood Revamp.
Dims 5'11" x 18 3/4" x 21/4" Quad
Unstrapped.
Conditions 14-24knots.
Side On.
1 metre swell.
7mt Neo fully depowered. Should have been on my 6.
Beautiful thru the water.
Smoothed out the chop really nice.
Pops over whitewater smooth and easy.
1st wave impression. Fast but controlled.
Smooth back hand bottom turns.
Nice drive.
Can still bust the fins out in a cutty if you want.
Points nice and high.
Speed speed to burn.
Can be laid over in a forehand bottom turn so hard.??
When coming out of toe side turns you have sooo much speed.
Feels like no other board I have ever ridden on a kite. And I've ridden and still own a hell of a lot of boards.
I seriously cannot fault this boards performance.
The ability to point so high allows you to chase down more waves.
Marty has certainly waved the magic planer over this one.
Cheers Windindaface

6 Jun 2017 12:14PM
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Hey Windindaface,

Good review.

Here is my story about this board. DISCLOSURE: I will be selling these bords so take it for what it's worth. I strongly suggest you drop in and take one for a demo so you can make your own mind up.

The story ....
Marty asked for my feedback on his ReVamp late in the season. I was struggling to find the time to give it a run but finally got the chance to do a downwinder with a couple of guys from City Beach to Thirds at Trigg. My preference is for strapless despite Marty's recommendation to leave the straps on it. I rode it with a moderately powered 7m Core Section wave kite in about 18 knots and with the usual Perth crappy small swell.

The board is a heavier than most boards and this is by design. Marty and I both agree that super light surfboards only work well if you are doing airs, otherwise the extra weight helps the board stay firmly planted in less than perfect conditions, the Revamp is also optimized for strength. AFAIK, there hasn't been any breakages.

The boards are polyester and glass construction and all come as quads. Now I'm not much of a fan of Quads which was possibly part the reason I wasn't bustin my hump to try the board. I do like the feel of polyester but haven't found one that would take the abuse of kiting to date

I did take the straps off for the test and the first thing I noted was it's easy upwind performance as I left the beach. It felt nice and responsive and didn't have any of that super light, "pop-out" epoxy skittishness about it at all. The board really came into it's own when youcrank a hard bottom turn. It responds quickly and redirects up the face with so much speed that it kinda put me off balance for the top turn where it came out of the turn with so much speed that I fell off the back of the board. This happened a couple of times as I wasn't used to a board which exits a top turn with so much speed and energy.

The quad fin feel, just wasn't an issue, it felt amazing and with more drive than I've ever had before from any board, I reckon it'll take me more than one afternoon of riding to really get the most of it. I intend to whack the straps on it so I can learn the way the board handles and will then take them back off again.

Marty is frothing over this design .... and with good reason, it's a stellar board. Right after the test, I phoned Marty and was super keen to get them into the shop but he declined saying there wasn't enough margin in the boards to make it even remotely worth while to retail. Basically everysale I could make at RRP would lose me money. I was absolutely gutted.

A few months passed and the board was returned. Marty called me up even more excited and told me he and an old mate who runs Cobra in Thailand were going to be producing them in Cobra in a small division called the "Customs" division. This division does short runs of hand made boards. The boards would be CNC shaped, hand finished, hand glassed and with at least as good, and in Marty's thoughts, probably better finished than he could make them himself. He was very particular about what glass, what resin and core th aboards would be made from and how they would be laied up. They would be the exact same as his customs, but with enough cost saving to make the board retail possible. Now I was stoked!

There will be four sizes available all only in Poly construction and quad fin. Should have them in stock for the startr of the season. I'll have demo's in most sizes. I have a 6'1" for myself although the demo board I tried was a 5'11" same as windindaface.

Bloody great board and good to see Marty frothing again over such a nice board.

DM








Weta
WA, 713 posts
7 Jun 2017 6:24PM
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Great to see you supporting a local shaper DM.

I have 2 of Marty's boards and cannot fault them they really are a pleasure to ride..............my other 3 boards are gathering dust :)

CJ2478
NSW, 177 posts
8 Jun 2017 7:59AM
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Cool board, but isnt polyester resin a bit of a backwards step? Theres a reason the space shuttle, airbus A380 and AC boats all use epoxy. I don't believe that epoxy itself results in that corky feeling, its more to do with the blank, and if you use a PU blank with epoxy you get great results.

9 Jun 2017 1:23PM
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Hi CJ2478,

Sorry, been away and Just back from Sydney and have spoken to Marty just now. We hadn't spoken for a month or two and in that time there has been a change. After speaking with Cobra who are Epoxy resin experts, Marty decided to change the resin from Poly to Epoxy, this will make the boards just a little lighter but will give better durability The Epoxy resin will give a lighter , whiter , brighter and most importantly stronger board. The cost will increase slightly but Marty feels the board will be a better product because of the change.

Cobra use some of the highest quality Epoxies in the world and are experts in it's application.

Marty is going back over to Cobra shortly to hand finish and sign each board and check on it's progress. This is his baby and he's a pedantic bugger. So now we just wait. I'm really excited and I know Marty is too.

Bring it on!

DM

bjw
NSW, 2226 posts
9 Jun 2017 9:13PM
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CJ2478 said..
Cool board, but isnt polyester resin a bit of a backwards step?


I surf epoxy boards, and enjoy the feeling, but kiting I'd try to avoid epoxy/eps. It gets micro cracks that let in water where as the PU doesn't let in nearly as much water. If I'm kiting and I put a small ding in my board the last thing I want to worry about is water logging my board.

PU sits lower in the water and seems to handle better. Also it's far easier to repair, if you are prone to damaging your board.

CJ2478
NSW, 177 posts
13 Jun 2017 7:43AM
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bjw said..

CJ2478 said..
Cool board, but isnt polyester resin a bit of a backwards step?



I surf epoxy boards, and enjoy the feeling, but kiting I'd try to avoid epoxy/eps. It gets micro cracks that let in water where as the PU doesn't let in nearly as much water. If I'm kiting and I put a small ding in my board the last thing I want to worry about is water logging my board.

PU sits lower in the water and seems to handle better. Also it's far easier to repair, if you are prone to damaging your board.


Mate, that's exactly what I am saying. I have kited my EPS core epoxy haydenshapes and it feels too corky. I have kited my home made epoxy OVER a PU core surfboard and it's awesome.

Epoxy over a PU core definitely brings the best of both worlds.

delta designs
WA, 8 posts
13 Jun 2017 2:42PM
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just to be clear, i will be shaping each board out of a standard polyurethane surfboard blank , signing it and having the epoxy laminating and finishing done by the unequalled cobra international factory in thailand. i'm getting too old to make every board these days and would rather be putting my time into R and D ..... another name for kitesurfing, playing guitar, surfing , beer drinking etc, etc ,etc
any ??'s feel free to pm me

bene313
WA, 1239 posts
Monday , 19 Jun 2017 10:04AM
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ActionSportsWA said..
The board is a heavier than most boards and this is by design. Marty and I both agree that super light surfboards only work well if you are doing airs, otherwise the extra weight helps the board stay firmly planted in less than perfect conditions, the Revamp is also optimized for strength. AFAIK, there hasn't been any breakages.


If it's 25 knots light weight boards can be a real hindrance IMO. Heavy boards cut through the chop better and don't fly away when punting.



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