Kite safety in more then challenging conditions.

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JOYRIDER
JOYRIDER
705 posts
705 posts
30 Oct 2010 5:01pm
Just a quick heads up to all the kiters out there in SA.

After driving to Henley today only to return home due to excessive wind. I noticed a few people dotted along the coast line between Henley and Seacliff.

All riders where alone, and one guy at the Seacliff end of the coast seemed to be of a beginner level.

I did manage to get on the water this arvo (on a tiny windsurf sail and it was side offshore, gusty and as windy as hell).

My point is not to name people or have a go.

I just urge everyone to double check the weather and decide if the strength, direction and their skill level are all suitable for the day.

Today's conditions were probably not suitable for the majority of kiters in Adelaide, just remember that summer seabreezes are just around the corner and there will be plenty of time to get out on the water.
I'd hate to see a serious kite related accident before our season even starts.

stay safe and enjoy

goofy foot
goofy foot
42 posts
42 posts
30 Oct 2010 7:39pm
big brother is watching over us
jamdfingr
jamdfingr
QLD
663 posts
QLD, 663 posts
30 Oct 2010 10:11pm
Good Call Mate. I went down today around 4 and it was blowing something like 24kts right up the beach. No way was I going to put up a kite and end up at port-augusta! Did the same thing as you and grabbed a windsurfer with a 4.5 sail and played on westlakes but that was gusty as hell.

Looking forward to those summer seabreezes!
phx
phx
SA
20 posts
phx phx
SA, 20 posts
31 Oct 2010 2:11am
Yeah I was one of the newbies down at largs. Gave up and packed down pretty much straight after I launched when I realised how overpowered I was.

Its hard to tell when you are new to the sport just what size kites people on the water are using, and they make it look too bloody easy ;)
loverboy
loverboy
WA
614 posts
WA, 614 posts
31 Oct 2010 6:06am
Well put JR- I went out at Henley but we always had someone experienced on the beach to catch kites....there were plenty who decided the conditions were more than their gear was capable of.

It is very easy to become complacent with anything you do- I work at heights alot and it took a close friend falling through a skylight six meters and onto concrete for me to be more conscious of safety....yesterday was a day for small kites and definitely one where you wanted someone else around so you could look out for each other.
KFKiter
KFKiter
SA
213 posts
SA, 213 posts
1 Nov 2010 1:55pm
Had a great time kiting on Saturday for a few hours in the arvo. If you cant control your kite with your board, even if you have little kites you shouldn't be out on a day like Saturday. I was out on my 10m Switchy in total control and it was having a ball!!
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
2 Nov 2010 12:15am
phx said...

Yeah I was one of the newbies down at largs. Gave up and packed down pretty much straight after I launched when I realised how overpowered I was.

Its hard to tell when you are new to the sport just what size kites people on the water are using, and they make it look too bloody easy ;)


Good call to call it quits if you realised it was too windy / out of control - no shame in living to kite another day!
waxman
waxman
SA
1390 posts
SA, 1390 posts
2 Nov 2010 12:48am
if in doubt take the 7m out was going off in whyalla[}:)][}:)][}:)]
JOYRIDER
JOYRIDER
705 posts
705 posts
2 Nov 2010 2:10pm
unfortunately not eveyrone in adelaide has access to a 7m or can ride to a level that requires one.

good to hear tho waxy.
was windy here too.
kitelooper1
kitelooper1
112 posts
112 posts
2 Nov 2010 5:17pm
Riding seriously overpowered is part of the deal. If you avoid it you will never learn and have the skill when u have no choice.

I will shout a carton to the first kiter to be winched up by the Rescue Helicopter.

I hope someone calls the chopper for me if i am down far offshore and facing a long swim in these shark infested waters. The rescue boys love an excuse and I want some return for my emergency services levy
jimmy87
jimmy87
SA
112 posts
SA, 112 posts
2 Nov 2010 8:47pm
If its anything like an ambulance they send you the bill
JOYRIDER
JOYRIDER
705 posts
705 posts
2 Nov 2010 9:01pm
iam all for getting out in stronger wind and improving your riding.

but when its because you dont have any idea i think there is a difference.

what i saw on the weekend just shows how much people didn't have any idea.

Ive kited for almost 8yrs now.
i have been dragged up the beach and scared the **** out of but i def wasn't out on a 10 or 12m kite in a squally 30knots and i had people on standby to help.

If you want to help my cause and understand my point then cool.
but if your hot headed approach results in the sport getting a bad image/beach banning or some one following your lead and getting hurt then i dare say there'll be more to write about on this forum.

lets just look after each other and enjoy it.
23Jetty
23Jetty
SA
16 posts
SA, 16 posts
2 Nov 2010 11:58pm
Sorry Kitelooper but there are some of us trying to join the community without adding to the negative side of this topic. Seriously, as a beginner I have not found a kiter that is not up to help at Largs when asked. That is the thing, ask or say! Lets all be safe so we all be the best we can.


I rely on the guys on the beach for guidance as a learner. If they were to say just go hard would I would be winched by helicopter??? Maybe??

Sorry I am enjoying learning but I am not looking to be hooked up the wrong way.

How about an adopt a kite buddy for the experienced guys? Help us reinforce good kiting habits not bad. There are plenty of inexperienced people hooking up but that may just be teaching bad habits!! Pay it forward???


There is only so much metro coast line, I am sure our sport is going to be under pressure going forward. Lets keep it as kiteable as possible.



doolz
doolz
SA
127 posts
SA, 127 posts
3 Nov 2010 1:33am
kitelooper1 said...

Riding seriously overpowered is part of the deal. If you avoid it you will never learn and have the skill when u have no choice.

I will shout a carton to the first kiter to be winched up by the Rescue Helicopter.

I hope someone calls the chopper for me if i am down far offshore and facing a long swim in these shark infested waters. The rescue boys love an excuse and I want some return for my emergency services levy


YOU HERO the best thing that could happen to you is sharkbait
Slammer
Slammer
SA
9 posts
SA, 9 posts
3 Nov 2010 8:57am
Jimmy87, 100% correct, emergency levy does not cover a helicopter rescue.. you could be hit for a bill greater than 6k, dependant on location of rescue, if you are NOT covered by insurance..

loverboy
loverboy
WA
614 posts
WA, 614 posts
3 Nov 2010 6:44am
Crew- just ignore anything kitepooper1 has to say... I am pretty sure it is an alias someone is using just to stir people up.

That said- there is some valuable advice in this thread. In any conditions anyone new to the sport should find somewhere with other kiters riding and say hi and introduce themselves. The kite buddy idea is already in place- every time a newbie let's more experienced crew know they are therethey get watched out for and looked after....it's one of the awesome things about our sport !
kitelooper1
kitelooper1
112 posts
112 posts
3 Nov 2010 9:01am
Slammer said...

Jimmy87, 100% correct, emergency levy does not cover a helicopter rescue.. you could be hit for a bill greater than 6k, dependant on location of rescue, if you are NOT covered by insurance..


What a load of misleading crap.

If you reckon a Heli needs to be called dont hesitate. The Surf Lifesaving Heli has never charged anyone and the State Govt Heli costs are covered by the Motor Accident Commission and the State Govt,. There is no cost recovery.

jamdfingr
jamdfingr
QLD
663 posts
QLD, 663 posts
3 Nov 2010 3:30pm
I started kiting about a year ago and found that when I went out to practise on the metro beaches, there was always another kiter there to lend a hand and give some tips. Like it has been said, this is one of the best aspects of our sport.

This enables people who dont have the cash to get a lesson to get a few helpful tips as they fumble their way into the sport. Having said that, I would suggest that any beginners do go and get lessons cause it may cost you in the long run from trashing gear etc. (trust me, I did it the hard way!)

Either way, it is great that the more experienced kiters are always helpful and willing to lend a hand to those who are willing to listen, learn and stay within their limits.

Good on ya guys!

mick14
mick14
SA
343 posts
SA, 343 posts
3 Nov 2010 6:05pm
I have been rescued by chopper - in Victoria and not kite-related.
It didn't cost me anything because I wasn't doing anything illegal.
I would suggest that you better be wearing PFD, or a chopper rescue could cost you.

Beginners are certainly at risk, but so are experienced kiters who become complacent. Most serious injuries I have heard about over the last few years have been to experienced guys.
action_ms69
action_ms69
SA
242 posts
SA, 242 posts
3 Nov 2010 8:42pm
Well rescue Choppers are govermented funded and rescue"e are not charged... But if you are thinking that a rescue chopper is going to get to you before the big fish do...

Sorry it takes min, 30 mins to get a chopper airborne and its the last resort, they would rather send out sea rescue or the police...

The main thing is if the wind is blowning off shore, goto to the pub... Dont kite in a off shore wind, is very gusty and can either blown up or drop right out.. Its never fun..

Safe kiting...
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