no kiting areas = no launch/landing???? or nothing

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CmonWind
CmonWind
SA
42 posts
SA, 42 posts
3 Nov 2013 9:24pm
hey people,
I am a little confused as I have heard a couple of different things in regards to the no kiting areas in Adelaide (or anywhere really).

Are no go areas that are on the saksa website able to be kited through? I have heard that as long as you don't launch or land on the beach then that's ok, ie semaphore area? The argument was that the counsel doesn't coontrol the water just the beach.

Just wanted to check as I don't want to break any rules, piss anyone off or upset the counsel.

Cheers.
mick14
mick14
SA
343 posts
SA, 343 posts
20 Nov 2013 10:40am
It may indeed be the case that you can't be fined or prosecuted for kiting through the no go areas. But you're not doing anyone any favours. The best way to maintain the access to the places we are allowed to use is to stay away from the areas that the Councils want us to avoid.
kitepolice
kitepolice
SA
20 posts
SA, 20 posts
21 Nov 2013 9:15am


We observe many people conducting downwinders through the SAKSA no Kiting areas.

Under the Harbours and Navigation ACT; a Kiter is considered a vessel under sail.
This means that you CAN freely and legally enter the SAKSA no Kiting areas on water.

The Harbours and Navigation act only controls the water. NOT the beach, thats council and some restriction do apply.

SAKSA as a group, association, club or body have opinions and guidelines. They believe these guidelines will positively affect the outcome of recreational kiteboarding in SA. Thats a positive thing.

But.

Under Law you are OK to kite through theses restricted zones on the water.
ENJOY, have fun and obey navigation rules.

Sugest doing your own reserch under the Harbours and Navigation ACT
www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/C/A/Harbors%20and%20Navigation%20Act%201993.aspx
lovelife
lovelife
SA
160 posts
SA, 160 posts
23 Nov 2013 10:38am


Hey Cmonwind, thanks for asking rather than just kiting whereever As Mike said above, it is just best to avoid those non-kiting areas For instance, the holfast bay areas are actually prohibited us, because we show up on the airport radar that controls aircraft, so we are politely asked not to use that area for safety reasons.

With regards to semaphore, it is a no kiting zone. The same counsel that do not allow kiting and semaphore DO allow kiting at largs bay and north haven. It really is worth risking that we can not kite at either largs or north haven anymore, just cause someone screws up at semaphore and ruins it for everyone else?

Even if you are an experienced kiter, there is always a chance that you crash/ break a line/wind drops out etc out on the water and will have to use that beach to land or do other kite related activities...

so unless you are going to swim to the next beach you would still need to get back to the beach then, don't you "kitepolice"...


really..why would you risk kiting there and screwing it up for everyone else if you can just kite on the next beach? That would be pretty selfish in my opinion!! Just respect the areas SAKSA stipulates as a no kiting zone, not worth jeopardising the beaches SAKSA fights so hard for to keep open for you and me.

I just know I would not want to be that person.


Now, the wind in the last couple of weeks has been great, the crew is fantastic as always and the water is warming up,

so...who is kiting today??

Cya on the water!!

cheers.
Elise


CmonWind
CmonWind
SA
42 posts
SA, 42 posts
27 Nov 2013 9:22pm
Thanks for sharing this info, I had been having a discussion that lead to this topic and this clears it up nicely. I'll be doing the right thing for the kiting community and staying in our designated areas.

See yous out there
dazza5172
dazza5172
SA
311 posts
SA, 311 posts
10 Jan 2014 8:54pm
One major problem with using this 'legal right' is that if indeed you don't have to abide by the restriction and kite through according to the Harbours and Navigation and classing yourself as a vessel you then have other obligations - So by waving the flag of legal rights means you have to start acting like a vessel and using and carrying things that vessels have to carry under certain conditions. Also under the legislation it is NOT as simple as being classed as a Vessel as kite boards, sailboards and 'similar vessels' are subclasses of vessels and treated specifically under the legislation.
Referring people to the Act is not enough, The Act itself is NOT the total regulating document for practical application - the Harbours and Navigation Regulations are, there are specific speed restrictions for Vessels in relation to their proximity to kite boards for example as the kiteboard is a subclass of the vessel category.
SAKSA does a fine job of working with the Council and authorities, this is the best way, we mutually work together and try and keep the agenda that kite boarding is different and needs to be treated differently. Great work has been done to work closely with the authorities and antagonism is not helpful.
its not about abiding by law and rules of oppression, its about mutually agreeing to meet with reasonable requirements to keep the beaches open.
The drop in rule in surfing is not legal, but you abide by it, this is the same.

Daz
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