St. Kilda Teaching Zone

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chimo0703
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14 Jan 2014 12:21am
Hei guys,

I started kiting two seasons ago and love it. I normally go to Rosebud or Altnona and try to avoid St. Kilda but I happened to be there last week and had an interesting chat with an instructor about the teaching zone. I am not too familiar with the rules and he made two claims which I find hard to believe. Just out of interest, can anyone confirm if these claims are acutally correct?

1.) "The teaching zone is restricted to kite schools and only students and instructors should be in it"
2.) "Kiting in the teaching zone is at your own risk and schools are not responsible for any incidents that might happen in the zone since they are expected" I.e., if a student crashes his kite into mine and breaks it, that is my own problem.


Thanks,
chimo
Wavehog
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14 Jan 2014 12:40am
It is ok to apply common sense at times.
Saffer
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14 Jan 2014 7:51am
chimo0703 said...
[br]Hei guys,

I started kiting two seasons ago and love it. I normally go to Rosebud or Altnona and try to avoid St. Kilda but I happened to be there last week and had an interesting chat with an instructor about the teaching zone. I am not too familiar with the rules and he made two claims which I find hard to believe. Just out of interest, can anyone confirm if these claims are acutally correct?

1.) "The teaching zone is restricted to kite schools and only students and instructors should be in it"
2.) "Kiting in the teaching zone is at your own risk and schools are not responsible for any incidents that might happen in the zone since they are expected" I.e., if a student crashes his kite into mine and breaks it, that is my own problem.


Thanks,
chimo


Nope. The first reason I say that is that the instructors currently think their zone is the entire beach. If they actually left people room to get out, then it would be practical to work that way, but currently we are forced through what they think is the instructors zone because they have no choice.

Secondly, I don't believe liability has ever been discussed or agreed with the kiters. Do the instructors also think this applies to swimmers or beach goers who are legally entitled to use the beach and the water. The instructors are required to be in control of their students and this includes their kites.

So yes, although I don't kite in the instruction zone, I'd be more than a little pissed off if I was forced to go through the instruction zone due to no other choice and the instructors wanted me to pay for my own damage.
HaydenDekker
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14 Jan 2014 5:58am
It's a terrible spot to kite at because the boats make the wind super gusty. But there are no boys in the water that define this zone, only imaginary lines. I teach my friends there all the time but I make sure they get a proper lesson on safety first.

Always remember that it's not a licensed sport so there are only a few rules put in place by parks vic.

Most just say where and how fast we can kite but I've experienced many places where this is overlooked and there are no rules regarding Kite schools or Teaching.
SaltySinus
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14 Jan 2014 12:06pm
HaydenDekker said..

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Always remember that it's not a licensed sport so there are only a few rules put in place by parks vic.

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Aye, it's self regulated... and like all self regulating things... you have to take the good with the bad. I'd rather keep it self regulating and give constructive feedback to other kiters and schools than have to buy rego for my board...

Can't let one or two (or three?) bad eggs spoil the broth (I may have mixed up a few metaphors there... along with a recipe or three).

lostinlondon
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14 Jan 2014 12:07pm
A few seasons back there was an access lane set up, at the south end of the beach. The idea being that experienced guys had a learner free zone, upwind of the learners to quickly and safely get out into the bay. There was also a northern limit set on the teaching zone so you could get back in if the wind dropped out or were at the riding but doing a walk of shame stage.

I think this should be reinstated with the kiteschools chipping in to purchase some clearly marked flags and maybe hand out fliers thoughout the day for a while until the system is implemented.

I don't agree that the wind is super gusty there - the wind comes over the pier when a SW is in. It's only when you get about 100m out that you get some disturbance. It's one of the better teaching locations around.
DANEgerous
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14 Jan 2014 12:14pm
The schools don't own that zone, however they are limited to that zone. Why not do everyone a favour (especially yourself) and kite further down the beach. You will have so much more room to yourself and no danger of students smashing you with their kite..
Saffer
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14 Jan 2014 6:07pm
DANEgerous said...
The schools don't own that zone, however they are limited to that zone. Why not do everyone a favour (especially yourself) and kite further down the beach. You will have so much more room to yourself and no danger of students smashing you with their kite..


I personally only kite there if it's mid day ion a work day or on winter days when it's quiet but beginners don't have that much choice.
Pedro Sexton
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14 Jan 2014 6:12pm
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