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tenno
tenno
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15 Mar 2011 12:52pm
hey all,
just wondering on the difference on kiteboarding specific wetsuits compared to normal surfing types. I currently have a 4/3 e bomb rip curl wetsuit and the only problem i have had is water pushing up past the bottoms so after a bit have big balloons of water in my legs. sux.
craggers
craggers
WA
475 posts
WA, 475 posts
15 Mar 2011 11:44am
kite/wind/sailing wetsuits tend to have more of the smooth shiny type rubber on them to reduce windchill factor. this stuff also tends to snag a bit easier and get holes torn in it (but its not a huge issue).

to solve your water squirting problem, the easiest and simplest fix is a pair of socks that go up and over the ankle. this is just enough to deflect the water jet away from heading up your wettie. if you let it do that continually, the leg of your wettie will get stretched and fatigued quickly and die a long time before the rest of your wetsuit is stuffed.

tenno
tenno
QLD
51 posts
QLD, 51 posts
15 Mar 2011 1:55pm
yup, i had velcro straps to prevent it. But it doesnt seem to be a lot of people who have the same problem. May just be my model.
maybe some fluro pink socks will look the part
JW
JW
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JW JW
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16 Mar 2011 12:28am
I put drainage holes in my wetsuits near the ankles. Just heat a prong on the stove to seal the rubber. After about a year the hole gets bigger but it's a good short term fix
iRideWainman
iRideWainman
VIC
219 posts
VIC, 219 posts
16 Mar 2011 11:30am
O'Neill's Windfreak or NPX's Assassin and some of the Mystic wetties are supplied with ankle straps. You could get yourself one of these wetsuits OR purchase the ankle straps separately and retrofit your E-bomb? Which is what I've done with my O'neill, this seems to be reasonable effective - certainly a lot better with the straps than without them...

jev7337
jev7337
QLD
460 posts
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17 Mar 2011 9:40am
I find Windsurfing and Kitesurfing wetsuits more restrictive then surfing wetsuit but most of the wind and kite suits do have a Velcro seals at the legs. They also have a different material around the chest and back which should help with the wind chill factor but it also tears easily. (I havn't tried the latest model NPX'x or Mystic, they may have improved).
I had many different wetsuits over the years but warmth and flexibility wise the Rip Curl F-Bomb is absolutely awesome for winter kiting - except the price tag. The E-Bomb is thinner and therefore a bit more flexible but a lot colder.
Velcro straps do a good job at stopping the water from entering your legs.
jev7337
jev7337
QLD
460 posts
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17 Mar 2011 10:56am
iRideWainman said...

... purchase the ankle straps separately...



Didn't know that you can purchase the ankle straps seperately - who sells them?
craggers
craggers
WA
475 posts
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17 Mar 2011 1:22pm
jev7337 said...

iRideWainman said...

... purchase the ankle straps separately...



Didn't know that you can purchase the ankle straps seperately - who sells them?


its velcro mate. probably bunnings would be your first stop.

and just on the wetsuit debate... ie. warmth... i cannot express strongly enough to you, that when the crowds are tucked up for winter, and its you and 2 others, and you really dont care what you look like (if ever), science, personal experience and a whole load of other unarguables will tell you that a $30 hood will save you an astounding amount of body heat loss, more than an extra grand spent on the wetsuit will. So much so, to the point where the 10 minutes you are unrigging (having stupidly removed the hood) will be 10 minutes where you are going 'YOOOOW... it really IS cold!!!! what tha fkity fk fk gggg...chk ch chc ch...' and it being the coldest 10 minutes of your session.

my best season ever, was this past one... thats winter '10, and i put it largely down to the hood. (as my mate had identical new wetsuit, but no hoody, and was rugged up in the car after about an hour, and hooting the carhorn at me after 2 hours to get me to come in). enjoy. and bring on fkn winter...

jev7337
jev7337
QLD
460 posts
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17 Mar 2011 4:37pm
craggers said...

jev7337 said...

iRideWainman said...

... purchase the ankle straps separately...



Didn't know that you can purchase the ankle straps seperately - who sells them?


its velcro mate. probably bunnings would be your first stop.

and just on the wetsuit debate... ie. warmth... i cannot express strongly enough to you, that when the crowds are tucked up for winter, and its you and 2 others, and you really dont care what you look like (if ever), science, personal experience and a whole load of other unarguables will tell you that a $30 hood will save you an astounding amount of body heat loss, more than an extra grand spent on the wetsuit will. So much so, to the point where the 10 minutes you are unrigging (having stupidly removed the hood) will be 10 minutes where you are going 'YOOOOW... it really IS cold!!!! what tha fkity fk fk gggg...chk ch chc ch...' and it being the coldest 10 minutes of your session.

my best season ever, was this past one... thats winter '10, and i put it largely down to the hood. (as my mate had identical new wetsuit, but no hoody, and was rugged up in the car after about an hour, and hooting the carhorn at me after 2 hours to get me to come in). enjoy. and bring on fkn winter...




There were discussions a while ago from some manufacturer to start making Velcro/Neoprene ankle straps to attach somehow to wetsuits to solve that issue, so just wondering if that happened. But the Bunning's version is fine too and they sell it by the metre and it's cheap. And when it gets freezing you just put your booties on and you don't need the straps anymore.




iRideWainman
iRideWainman
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219 posts
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17 Mar 2011 5:50pm
I had an NPX assassin which the ankle strap broke on, I took it into SHQ and they gave me a new set of straps from a wetsuit of the rack - I'm assuming they order replacements from Neil Pryde, but I didn't specifically ask if they were sold separately; I'm just assuming...
superlizard
superlizard
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702 posts
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18 Mar 2011 4:31pm
velcro is ok, but not perfect solution... if you tie it down very hard you stop blood circulation and you stop feeling your feet... if you don't tie it down too hard, you still get some water in which gets trapped and impossible to release without taking velcro off which you can't do while riding...

Gorgo
Gorgo
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5127 posts
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18 Mar 2011 5:20pm
Velcro works ok but it sucks to the extreme when you have your wettie around your ankles ... and you've forgotten to remove the velcro.

The best solution for cold weather is to wear booties and to tuck the legs of your wetsuit into the booties. No more water rushing up your leg and you have warm tootsies as well.

Add a hood and you are ready to go for epic winter sessions. A hood with a little brim is better. You can tilt your head so that the wind and rain is deflected off your face and you immediately feel warmer and more comfortable.

There is something particularly special about being out in really poor weather but being warm and comfortable and doing something fun. Good rubber and good conditions rock.

PS. My regular tip for cold weather sessions. Grab a 4-5 litre container, a few bucks from Bunnings or an old Coke bottle will do. Fill it with hot water and wrap your towel around it. It will keep the water warm for about 8 hours. When you have finished you can rinse down with warm water then dry off with a warm towel. Bliss!
craggers
craggers
WA
475 posts
WA, 475 posts
18 Mar 2011 2:55pm
Gorgo said...

Velcro works ok but it sucks to the extreme when you have your wettie around your ankles ... and you've forgotten to remove the velcro.

The best solution for cold weather is to wear booties and to tuck the legs of your wetsuit into the booties. No more water rushing up your leg and you have warm tootsies as well.

Add a hood and you are ready to go for epic winter sessions. A hood with a little brim is better. You can tilt your head so that the wind and rain is deflected off your face and you immediately feel warmer and more comfortable.

There is something particularly special about being out in really poor weather but being warm and comfortable and doing something fun. Good rubber and good conditions rock.

PS. My regular tip for cold weather sessions. Grab a 4-5 litre container, a few bucks from Bunnings or an old Coke bottle will do. Fill it with hot water and wrap your towel around it. It will keep the water warm for about 8 hours. When you have finished you can rinse down with warm water then dry off with a warm towel. Bliss!


Had me in stitches picturing the nearly naked bare arse pointed into an icy wind, and the realisation that your trying to piss with a franger on!!! ha ha ha!!! gold.

totally on your wavelength with the 'beating the elements' fun times. seems more illicit or tantalizing when you have snatched enjoyment from the jaws of miserable weather.
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
18 Mar 2011 6:23pm
craggers said...

Gorgo said...

Velcro works ok but it sucks to the extreme when you have your wettie around your ankles ... and you've forgotten to remove the velcro.

The best solution for cold weather is to wear booties and to tuck the legs of your wetsuit into the booties. No more water rushing up your leg and you have warm tootsies as well.

Add a hood and you are ready to go for epic winter sessions. A hood with a little brim is better. You can tilt your head so that the wind and rain is deflected off your face and you immediately feel warmer and more comfortable.

There is something particularly special about being out in really poor weather but being warm and comfortable and doing something fun. Good rubber and good conditions rock.

PS. My regular tip for cold weather sessions. Grab a 4-5 litre container, a few bucks from Bunnings or an old Coke bottle will do. Fill it with hot water and wrap your towel around it. It will keep the water warm for about 8 hours. When you have finished you can rinse down with warm water then dry off with a warm towel. Bliss!


Had me in stitches picturing the nearly naked bare arse pointed into an icy wind, and the realisation that your trying to piss with a franger on!!! ha ha ha!!! gold.

totally on your wavelength with the 'beating the elements' fun times. seems more illicit or tantalizing when you have snatched enjoyment from the jaws of miserable weather.


Its one of the reasons I love my drysuit so much. When you're sitting at Rosebud in miserable weather taking a 10 minute breather and you can see people huddling behind kites to keep themselves warm while you're toasty and warm standing in the open it brings a smile to your face. Not to mention watching people get out of wet wetsuits while they dry to quickly dry themselves while their skin turns blue from the cold wind and you climb out all dry (maybe a wet ankle if you got a little water up) and casually take your time getting into your clothes without catching hypothermia.
tenno
tenno
QLD
51 posts
QLD, 51 posts
18 Mar 2011 5:55pm
Some good info, How about a couple of small lengths of hose sticking out of the bottom of your wettie. like a bilge. lol
Lebowski
Lebowski
VIC
87 posts
VIC, 87 posts
22 Mar 2011 6:45pm
You could just use electrical tape instead of angle straps, it works and is cheap to
Lebowski
Lebowski
VIC
87 posts
VIC, 87 posts
22 Mar 2011 6:47pm
HA HA I think i was supposed to write ankle not angle, I need more coffee
adrenal
adrenal
VIC
134 posts
VIC, 134 posts
23 Mar 2011 11:30am
I have a Ion Strike 4/3 wetsuit (made by North). Has ankle straps, drain holes, padding etc, all specifically designed for kiteboarding. Can't really compare it to other brands as I have never owned any but I've been very happy with the Strike and how comfortable and flexible it is. They do a 5/3 as well.

Next purchase in preparation for winter will be a good hood (& booties). No secret that the head leaks heat like a volcano! Keep head and torso protected from the elements and you're laughing.

Compelling story about drysuits saffer. Might also be an option if still find myself out there in the very dead of winter.




harry potter
harry potter
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2777 posts
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23 Mar 2011 2:57pm
^^^^ x2

I have the ION Strike " Over Knee " basically the wetsuit stops about 1/3 to 1/2 way down the shin just below the knee...its aparrantly kite specific ooooohhhh
Its a 4/3 and I wear it all year........... unless its really really cold and then I wear my F Bomb which generally is too hot to wear unless its super cold.






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