While I believe proper lessons should be mandatory at the very beginning for the sake of oneself and others' safety, and gear should be chosen in a way that it is both safe as well as suitable for the conditions. You are doing well and most importantly are aware of the risks and trying to stay out of trouble. Keep on practising, learning from as many people as possible, get rid of that board leash, and play in an area which is dedicated mainly to beginners as this is how you will progress quickly and safely. Goodonya for posting this also. Just don't learn from the poleys to 1. Have a picknick chat in the middle of the pond, 2. Change direction without looking or trying to cut through others path attempting at running them over, or 3. Tailgating even when it is obvious that one will have to turn. Enjoy and be safe!

oh yup and its a total relief being able to do it in an area where u feel safe for the parking compared to what i hear about woodies point (sadly)..

Wayne2014 said..

Hi guys, glad your enjoying safety bay, it's bloody nice down here. I'm a every day walker down at warnbro dog beach and would really appreciate it if you guys could help me out. Walking my dogs down the beach after a ****ty day at work is the one thing that always cheers me up. I noticed most kite surfers are usually up near the penguin island however lately the odd one is showing up down near warnbro dog beach. I appreciate that as kiting become more and more popular that is must become crowded in these area. however the kites for some reason scare the **** out of my dogs and is making it increasingly hard to enjoy the one part if my day which I really look forward too. I would really appreciate it if you could ask people to possibly say clear of warnbro dog beach area, or at least stay a little ways away from the beach, the waves are small and crappy anyway. As dog people we are restricted be council as to where we can walk out dogs on the beach so I don't have a lot of choice as to where I can go. A little help here would be greatly appreciate, enjoy kiting

Hi Wayne, guess you made the effort to register and post politely so you deserve an answer. I have not seen anyone kiting near Warnbro dog beach really and it is not very likely that kiters would leave Safety Bay (the pond area) and go to that beach. I can only assume someone must have been doing a downwinder. I am not aware of any restrictions. So if these guys came a bit too close to you and your dog all I can suggest is try to approach them next time this happens and if indeed their kites come too close to where you are.
I think you are actually quite lucky where you are. I am sure you will agree if and when you visit Mersey point dog beach which is shared with a lot of kiters, kite school even. Somehow we cope and try to respect each other. I would prefer to walk our dogs always at the closest dog beach but often move to the next one to avoid the (kite) crowd. There is room for improvement on both ends with regards to understanding each other amd respect each other's way to enjoy the water and the beach. So as a kiter and dog owner I hear you. But it is difficult. So all I can suggest is if you think someone comes to close and poses a risk to you and the dog, speak to them personally. Otherwise I hope you are fine on that quieter part of the bay. All the best

that 'rude kiter' (local) that doesnt ever give way when u do gave death threats (pointing at them and slitting their throat while in/on water) to a girl you know andy.And she is bloody good kiter. would.like to talk to u about it sometime.i have heard of a crAzy rude agro swearing windsurfer in margs down here.when i see u will chat its wrong and certainly made.me.uncomfortable so i know how she feels
shame because everyone else is polite curteous and lovely

think adam is one of the other "greats"

Wow-ee

What does the guy look like, what kite does he fly?

Who is the girl?

Im a local and down there often, although not so much last couple of weeks, and haven't seen anything like this.

There has been the odd occasion recently where a few of us (including myself) have had a polite word to visitors who continually short tack or never venture outside of that little bay/section of the flattest water inside the pond (to explain the typical etiquette), but thats all I know of..

Oh I should have added that my gesticulation did not include any slit-throat stuff. Scary

Ah mate I am relieved as I am not wearing glasses. I hope he was just visiting and moved on. If not, I am sure we will be able to witness some of his uncontrolled hand moves in the future and with mutual efforts we might get him explain or understand and stop this. A few more hints as in kite brand etc would help but I understand you do not feel comfortable doing this. That's ok.
In general, the pond has some obvious (map) and not so obvious rules as e.g. the circuit (outwards downwind, into the pond upwind, do your whatever and leave downwindish). As a new arrival or newbie or visitor common sense suggests that one would either talk to people to understand the rules (and to get an idea about how shallow it is in some spots) or if shy observe and learn. Even when I was a bloody Euro without Australian citizenship and not yet living here I did not have difficulty to see that this circuit is mainly used by advanced riders doing some freestyle tricks for which it is important to have flat water. While I do some mickymouse low level old fart tricks and flat water helps a lot with those also, I know my place in the kite skills ranking and I bugger off to other flatish areas further south and only enter the circuit when it is rather empty. Problem is we are all very friendly here hence we rely on everyone using the mentioned common sense and observational skills to realise that there are some soft rules existing. I know some of the kiters (and a lot of them ride worse than me, sorry for skipping the understatement here) ignore those rules and kite upwind in the flat section despite not doing tricks as they like the sound of the flat water or something. Fair enough. But I guess they should still try to obey the circuit and not short tack and be in the way of others. Guess that was what default try to say.
So what I am trying to say is in a crowded spot like this everyone should use their brains, eyes, ears, tongues. And it is very ok to identify the agro guys who cause trouble and agitation or even accidents.
Thanks dude, happy riding to all of us!

MissRebel said...
But to put on a funny side, are you sure the sign he was doing was like "I'll cut your throat" and he wasn't not trying to say something different?

Thats how they say hello in rocko / wanbro and mandurah

My mrs was standing ankle deep in the water, 1m from the beach at 3pm before it was crowded and some girl (kiter) told her the water is for kiters not swimmers lol.

matt..nathan..kyle..elastic man1..elastic man2(jasons dad?)..drew..craig ;drew2....Scott from Byron...the list goes on nice helpful ones! remembering some names now

and of course instructors..... Mike..; etc...

miss rebel'.. ..thats so.funny lol...inadvertant middle.finger lol...no..hi..the friend told me intentional prison type action as said above.me too.v similar..i did have it out with him.today however as it was bugging me as u dont do that to a girl that nice... and got some explanation r.e tact and 'only way to communicate in the water'...and response'i dont give a ****'......

u just dont do that full stop!..and yes local but not in the first four weeks of my time in safety!..all peaceful.nice and learning experience... positive# learning

andyrusskraut etc&default..thankyou for your circuit explanation and.point noted...i hope this helps all people..it is like.skislopes really&was glad to understand it from.people like you andy in.the first place(there are no signs etc..etc)...
incidentally this guy is never# in the pond so that shows to me inability to communicate with other riders perhaps?(as experienced apparently).anyway u know who he is now mate.thanX again

r.e.dogs i cant give any input on that one but am sure people appreciate u writing on this!..haVent had one for years and if i did would have him on a board lol

so thanks to all else etc

Yes Tim now I know who you are talking about. Can you elborate a bit more on what your chat was about and how he reacted. It is a bit cryptic. I recognised the 2009/2010 black Vegas (yesterday he was on a blue Vegas same year). He was in the pond once. It was just me and him and nevertheless he was trying to run into me on his surfboard. I swear I had to avoid him last minute when I realised this was no joke and he means collision. I was a bit too shocked that something like this is possible and thought such a mental person would not be around for long. I was wrong. He is doing his backroll kiteloops in front of everyone put on the seaweed bed area just south of the dredging boat, clearly not taking into consideration he will end up downwind and run into other kiters he could normally easily pass. I was watching him doing this today and yesterday, almost running into my gf and another female kiter and myself. It is a question of time until someone gets injured. I wanted to speak to him but he rides upwind to land near the blue toilets / wa aurf or further soI did not have a chance. I am thinking about creating another post specifically to warn people and to try and get in contact with this agro person.

wow, hard to understand, kryptic posts, heavy weather, poor form . Any chance the above posters and learners can take their kites ,boards and dogs and aggro and spend the weekend closer to warnboro dog beach. The pond will return to normal and off course there will be more room for me in that sweet butter flat section. hmmmmmm haha

rcr46401 said..

wow, hard to understand, kryptic posts, heavy weather, poor form . Any chance the above posters and learners can take their kites ,boards and dogs and aggro and spend the weekend closer to warnboro dog beach. The pond will return to normal and off course there will be more room for me in that sweet butter flat section. hmmmmmm haha

Yeah mate. Will take the agro dickhead item out and create another post shortly in less kryptic form. This guy is a concern and people should be warned. I hope we will be able to make it a safer place if everyone tells him that is not something he will get away with. So far it looks like he does. So he continues...