Building a class 2/3 wooden axle

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lachlan3556
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15 Sep 2015 5:25pm
Hi all. Well, gearing up for some landsailing again over the summer and have a project. How do I go about building a class 3 axle?

From my reading I have discovered people using Sitka cedar, Red Wood Cedar, Spruce, Ash, Tassie Oak, Oregon...

As someone who doesn't delve into timber work, can I ask if anyone has any recommendations? Especially from an Aussie point of view regarding the sourcing of correct timbers.
aus230
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15 Sep 2015 6:27pm
I used tassie oak and found it ok.
if you go through the link I made while building my class3 it has plenty of info from people that supplied info to me,
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Land-Yacht-Sailing/Construction/Class3/?page=2
landyacht
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15 Sep 2015 7:14pm
tassie oak is a s good as you'll get in Oz. if you want a softer axle consider making the top lamination out of maranti. another good wood here is RAMIN. but need to select a springier one.
when picking your planks put 2 blocks on the ground at the right distance apart then lay the plank on and jump on the middle. I like about 3 bounces 5 is too springy,1.5 is to stiff. a cracking noise means put it back on the rack. i do this instore before purchasing the wood Nothing with knots, and grain needs to perpendicular to the flat of the plank
lachlan3556
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15 Sep 2015 10:11pm
Thanks Vic. I've been over and over your class 3 build thread, have myself a page of notes re. axle building. Just not a lot of experience with timber, and whether one option is far better than others. Thanks for the hints Landyacht.

Other recommendations and instructions are more than welcome.
Will post again the details of how I get kicked out of the timber yard for jumping all over their product...
lachlan3556
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21 Sep 2015 10:32pm
Ok, I can tell everyone wants to answer a stupid question. Would laminating several layers of timber (ie: 2 or 3) together (epoxy) or a single piece plank be better? My father has some oregon planks in the shed from years ago when the house was built, 6x2 or 8x2 if memory serves, and looking at them I wonder if laminating several layers is the only way to fly

I assume a single piece of timber would be plan A, taking into account Landyacht's flex-test and quality criteria.
landyacht
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21 Sep 2015 8:50pm
send us the length of your axle before i type the next bit
lachlan3556
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22 Sep 2015 9:11am
Pretty close to 3000-3100mm for the timber section, and then stub axles outside of that to bring the whole assembly to about 3450mm overall width.

Hoping to stick with the standard (as far as I can tell) FISLY Class 3 dimensions, not that this will be real Euro style class 3
Hiko
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22 Sep 2015 11:42am
Hi lachlan
One of the guys over here used a laminated scaffold plank
If you went down that track I suggest you shape it to the dimensions you want and give it the bounce test
Too stiff thin it down some Too soft lay some unidirecton cloth on the bottom in epoxy resin
Still too soft put some more epoxy/cloth on the bottom You get the idea
lachlan3556
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23 Sep 2015 1:42pm
Thanks for the tip Hiko. I assume the scaffold plank worked out well?
Hiko
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23 Sep 2015 7:55pm
I believe so It was made to replace a broken one The yacht was sold on I don't know where it is now and the builder
has gone out of land yachting
landyacht
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23 Sep 2015 9:33pm
the lamibeams you get here in aus are really stiff and poor quality,dont weather well being radiata. NZ has better quality plantation stock.
at that length i would be going 3 layer .2 tassie oaks and a a pine with minimal knots on top.maybe 290mm wide at the centre and tapering at the outer. 1 wrap of epoxy/glass to keep it clean and dry
lachlan3556
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24 Sep 2015 8:36am
Thanks Landyacht. I think I have enough of an idea to go make a mess. I'll be back with some'ish progress soon I hope.
lachlan3556
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25 Sep 2015 7:56pm
Another question. I heard mention that Oregon might be an appropriate timber to use for an axle; might this be true?

Local timber supplier has tassie oak, nothing wider than 200mm though. 200x20mm plank is going for about $25 per meter...
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