Wooden landyacht

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eltoro
eltoro
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11 posts
9 Sep 2009 10:30pm
Hello, does anyone have any info on building wooden a landyacht? Also any experience in making low cost masts?
cisco
cisco
QLD
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QLD, 12365 posts
10 Sep 2009 3:47am
Your fellow Americans seem to know all there is to know about wooden land and ice yachts. Laminated timber for frames etc can be really successful.

Google "Ice Yachts". There are some really fantastic machines over your way.

We don't got no ice lakes down heyah. I wish.
hills
hills
SA
1622 posts
SA, 1622 posts
10 Sep 2009 7:49am
I recall reading on here that someone either was going to or did build a wooden landyacht using 2 old snow skis laminated together for the rear axles. I'll see if I can find the thread tonight after work.

By the way, welcome to the forum Eltoro!!
responderman
responderman
82 posts
82 posts
10 Sep 2009 6:58am
eltoro said...

Hello, does anyone have any info on building wooden a landyacht? Also any experience in making low cost masts?


I once made a wooden kite buggy out of oak, The design was awful but the idea worked well. The one thing I did learn was to keep things from twisting I had to work in triangles, which is why the design didn't work. however it could work better on a land yacht I think.
Welcome from another newbee.
Jay
kiwi307
kiwi307
488 posts
488 posts
10 Sep 2009 10:55am
Eltoro, welcome, how big do you want to build it, then I can suggest a number of plan sets for you.
eltoro
eltoro
11 posts
11 posts
10 Sep 2009 8:32pm
Thanks everyone for the welcomes and feedback. I looked up some ice yachts and most of those are way above my skill level, but inspiring. my skill level is not much above building tree houses when i was 12. but i am an engineering student working with a carpenter that has a workshop so im hoping we can make something that will catch wind and roll. we have a frame started but arn't too committed that we couldnt make some changes if you guys have examples or ideas. looking to build one that is medium/small (i will have a 6.5 m sail in a couple days). trying to keep it low cost. im building it just for fun not for a class.
aus230
aus230
WA
1660 posts
WA, 1660 posts
10 Sep 2009 11:30pm
Here is a site for ice / wind flyer plans. I built one a couple of years ago it was a fun yacht to sail and would have been great to race if there were a few of them around
groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/iceflyer/files

kiwi307
kiwi307
488 posts
488 posts
11 Sep 2009 7:42am
Donkey's years ago the members of the Auckland landyacht club built their yachts in a weekend. They were a triangle of 2 x 3" just wide enough at the back end to sit between and pointy at the front. Ply underneath for the seat base. Back axle was a plank of about 6" x 1 1/2".
Mast was at 47" from tha back axle and raked back so the tip was above the axle line. They had a really simple fork type front steering system, and a bit of ply (probably about 3/8" for the seat back, your butt was directly above the axle line.
This should be within the "skill set" you described! They went pretty damned well too, and could be made pretty much any size (mast stays in the same place).
Wheels were always wheelbarrow type (unless there was something in the roadside inorganic rubbish!)
Photos? sorry I have none, almost in the black and white era, certainly pre-digital! Maybe I should make one!
Gizmo
Gizmo
SA
2865 posts
SA, 2865 posts
11 Sep 2009 9:57am
Only joking





But seriously... here is a yacht built years ago.


landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
11 Sep 2009 5:00pm
The wooden chook would make a great project , especially ifbuilt to fit into the Lake Lefroy Mini specs. its just 2planks for the sides, ply floor, 19mm plank for the rear axle, stayed mast,4.2m sail
Arjay
Arjay
VIC
267 posts
VIC, 267 posts
11 Sep 2009 8:44pm
LOL Gee I wish I had a pic of my first land siler. Frame built from 4x2 hardwood, with pram wheels and the Flying Ant mast and main attached. All stayed of course. Up and down the court we lived in near Springvale!! Oh for the 70's!!

edit: see a blokarter with sailing and land sailing in his veins....watch out!!
kiwi307
kiwi307
488 posts
488 posts
12 Sep 2009 3:54pm
My mum is searching out a colour slide of my first one, how do I get this on the site?
Comes from 1960.
The first KNOWN AND DOCUMENTED landyacht in NZ is 1856. Of course there are older ones, but when was NZ first settled!
Hiko
Hiko
1229 posts
1229 posts
12 Sep 2009 4:54pm
My namesake ancestor settled in NZ in 1832 after first settling in OZ seven years previously by courtesy of HM prisons at the tender age of 12
Probably the best thing that ever happened to him as he got taught a trade which he would never have got in England He lived a long adventurous life building
trading cutters and schooners and the like no landyachts though I dont think
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
13 Sep 2009 8:03pm
kiwi307 said...

My mum is searching out a colour slide of my first one, how do I get this on the site?
Comes from 1960.
The first KNOWN AND DOCUMENTED landyacht in NZ is 1856. Of course there are older ones, but when was NZ first settled!

project it onto a wall and take a digital.
Does the ghost of the reverand William Puckey still haunt the camping ground at Ahipara

Gizmo
Gizmo
SA
2865 posts
SA, 2865 posts
14 Sep 2009 10:22am
landyacht said...
project it onto a wall and take a digital.


Actually better to project the slide onto an A4 sheet of white paper as the image is brighter and better to take a pic of.... This works well for old super8 movies as well.
Some scanners these days may have a slide / negative adaptor.

eltoro
eltoro
11 posts
11 posts
15 Sep 2009 8:58pm
Alright construction is under way. I have to mount the steering and build a mast yet. I'm making a cooper's mast hopefully it will work good. Here's a link incase youre not familiar with it.
www.pdracer.com/mast/hollow-mast/

I will try to get some pictures soon thanks for all the feedback.
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
16 Sep 2009 10:56am
This will be interesting, I would give it a layer of light fibreglass cloth after to asisst in sudden shock resistance in a capsize. thats the big difference in a landyacht.
If you go stayless rig I would reinforce the base with a wooden dowel say 500mm.
Finally , from experience , avoid PL glues , as they get brittle( again the shock thing)
Kemosabi
Kemosabi
69 posts
69 posts
23 Sep 2009 3:38am
Cool stuff!! I've never seen a mast made this way. Of course, maybe they all were, before the days of composites.
With the idea of keeping your project inexpensive, what sort of wood will you use for the mast? Bamboo comes to mind, but that's not cheap in the US>

I've built wooden bows (archery) in the past, so this idea of a smaller, built-up wooden mast is especially interesting considering the bending forces it will be subjected to.

Regards,
-Nat

Hiko
Hiko
1229 posts
1229 posts
23 Sep 2009 7:13am
Got to agree with Paul about the glue Once used a product called Gorilla Glue some kind of PL glue I believe on some garden furniture This stuff is an insult both to the word glue and apes IMHO
kiwi307
kiwi307
488 posts
488 posts
23 Sep 2009 9:02am
Hiko said...

Got to agree with Paul about the glue Once used a product called Gorilla Glue some kind of pl glue I believe on some garden furniture This stuff is an insult both to the word glue and apes IMHO


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