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gibberjoe
gibberjoe
SA
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SA, 956 posts
25 Sep 2012 10:00am

welding, can u weld stainless rod to mild steel pipe ?

pod building, why dont people do fibreglass on chickenwire [small wire] frame

do stickweld [fair-good] am thinking of upgrade [pensioner] to mig-tig, advice.
sabydent
sabydent
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360 posts
25 Sep 2012 1:53pm
When I built the Wind Pig. I considered that, however, I think it would be pretty hard to lay the resin on the cloth over a core that was not solid. You would end up with an uneven glass surface that would be hard to finish. I found thst laying the glass was fairly simple over my foam core. The core was covered with plastic tuck tape and was very easy to remove.

Brian
Nikrum
Nikrum
TAS
1972 posts
TAS, 1972 posts
25 Sep 2012 4:46pm
I believe that SS can be welded to Mild with Low Hydrogen Rods as for Glass on Wire Mesh I think you woould have to work both sides at once and then hope that it would not slide off of the mesh.. Card Board, Ply etc are the way to go unless you are going to build a mold to work on.
Ron
kiwiboy
kiwiboy
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12 posts
25 Sep 2012 4:34pm
You can TIG stainless to mild steel using 309 TIG rods
FreCo
FreCo
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24 posts
25 Sep 2012 4:43pm
Glassing on wire might not be a bad idea, but you'll have to be sure that it holds its shape nicely. Besides, as Saby also suggested, I assume it will be hell to have a regular, correct, balanced, bump-free, whatever... shape.

Attach some polyethylene-plastic on the inside, nicely taped at the outside.
Then lay-up your fibres and glass it on the outside. The plastic will prevent excessive dripping (and waste of polyesther) and most probably easier to wet the fibres the right way. Leave the tape, it wont matter.
Once the first layer has dried, you may do the inside if you want to use the wire for extra strength.

But why would you do it? Quick? Easy? Cheap?
IMHO, if you want to glass it, there is no such way. There is just, not so cheap, expensive and really expensive. Or not so quick, slow, and really sluggish....
Ok, whatever... if you want it quick and easy, build a square box. If you want to use fibresglass, take just that little bit more time.

Foam is the way to go if you really like shaping, yet a bit dusty. But you can make any possible shape. I used to make a 2m wwkayak this way. Use a router for the big rough shaping, the surform rasp for smaller shaping.
If you want extra strength, use 3mm-ply, it's easy to work with, easy to measure, easy to saw, bend, stich & glue. If you still want special forms, glue some foam on your wooden frame, and you can still shape special parts.
And if you don't want it all inside your fibre, you can always try to put some plastic on your wooden pod, before laying up the stuff and remove the wood afterwards.
Hiko
Hiko
1229 posts
1229 posts
25 Sep 2012 6:02pm
You can stick weld stainless to mild steel using stainless rods
Stainless rods are very versatile and can weld many different steels
I have had a lot of success with them over the years
landyacht
landyacht
WA
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WA, 5921 posts
25 Sep 2012 8:35pm
yes you can weld stainless with regular rods, the chrome and nickel will even flow into the weld. just up the amps a bit. given the type of welds your likely to do I cant see the point of spending on a mig tig.
re the glassing, you really want a good surface to work to. as freco says get a good surface to work to otherwise youll spend forever bogging up. whats the project
gibberjoe
gibberjoe
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26 Sep 2012 7:34am

ultra light weight.....small, straightline only landyacht
Nikrum
Nikrum
TAS
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TAS, 1972 posts
26 Sep 2012 10:41am
Sounds like a bunch of fun GJ So it will go like the Clappers down wind then you get some exercise ??

Ron
grlynch
grlynch
QLD
208 posts
QLD, 208 posts
28 Sep 2012 9:15pm
There is an Arc rod called a "Weldall" from CIG. I've never actually used them myself, but from what me dad tels me you can pretty much weld stainless to play doh! Dad has had a play and reckons the're not bad.

Quite expensive though.

http://victortechnologies.asia/south-pacific/cigweld/products?task=detailProduct&CatID=2&SubCatID=13&ProdLineID=0&ProdID=183
gibberjoe
gibberjoe
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SA, 956 posts
29 Sep 2012 12:28pm

thanks for the input....heres another

what would happen if balca wood be used to make a plug to carry glassfibre

I recon it be OK what about you and YYYYYYYY
cisco
cisco
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QLD, 12367 posts
29 Sep 2012 3:04pm
Lots of boats have been built like that, ie balsa core or sandwich.
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
2 Oct 2012 8:54pm
balsa and fibreglass love each other, particularly when the balsa is end grain
gibberjoe
gibberjoe
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SA, 956 posts
4 Oct 2012 9:36pm
weighing up wether to use chrome moly for a new chassi 0.035wall 0.035 gpi

grams per inch. Available Airport Metals "Bralco" x melbourne mil-T-6736 4130N
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