aus230,
Does that offer stand for WA only or is it ALL States?
Ron

Since the Fallshaw factory is in Melbourne it would seem a bit odd that they would be more expensive in Melbourne than Perth

landyacht said...

bazl said...

Since the Fallshaw factory is in Melbourne it would seem a bit odd that they would be more expensive in Melbourne than Perth

I thought it was in brisvegas

"14km west of Melbourne city centre...."
www.fallshaw.com.au/information/about

aus715 said...

They won't have the 4 ply aussie made rib tyre for that price. You get the knobby one. FS get them brought in and it costs them $40 from I have been told on the phone just last week. That pushes the price up to $85, with a precision bearing and all assembled.

Precision 2" x 1" x 1/2" sealed precision bearings are about $20 each.

When I bought my FS wheels in Bundy about 3 years ago they cost $35 each with tyres, tubes and pressed steel "deep groove" bearings.

The stockist no longer keeps FS due to rising prices and now stocks Richmond wheels.

http://www.richmondau.com/wheels/products/plas_pneumatic.html

Too small I think it is 8 inch overall diameter

Thought it was too good to be useful. Fallshaws don't seem to have reached this hemispere. Back to plan A which is get some off Yorker Land Yachts which are still reasonably priced....just not any near that reasonable. Hey ho.

Cheers Col

Just down getting some mulch for the garden from the local garden supplier (indie), and wouldn't you know it...a set of blue wheel barrow wheels in the corner looking lonely, for $39.90 each. BLue plastic five spoke centres (rather solid and looking like Porsche/VW forged alloy wheels from 1975), precision bearings (Chinese) that were very smooth, and a decent enough tyre that had a reasonable tread pattern. All it needed was a compression tube between the bearings, and off you go.

Just some more grist to the mill...

Do they look similar to the ones in the link Gizmo supplied? They are more common up here in the 'North'.

Cheers Col

Having read much in these threads about Plastic Rims one has to be careful of the Plastic Compounds used to construct them. Some tend to soften in Hot Desert Conditions and under pressure distort and can drop a Bead off which might be very embarrassing at speed. Many are designed purely for very low speed use and low tire pressures, not to mention being cheaply made.

Ron

aus715 said...

I agree entirely. Although FS wheels are plastic (nicely made they are too) and only rated to 15km/h. Can't beat metal rims but they are a fair bit heavier. Leaning towards metal myself now.

you wont have distortion problems with the fallshaw.tried the test last year . 40+ on the lake ,45psi and sailing hard. many of the chinese steel rims are really thin and of poor temper ,with weak central design which leads to buckling, cracked welds. the fallshaw steel is to tough for that.
TP1 used to run steel on his 5 ,and he is around the 110+ with his weight high due to his impressive height, and he has gone over to plastic

A tyre place in Bendigo (1.5hr North Melbourne) just sold me 3 ribbed, 4 ply Mullins 4.00x8 tyres for $25 each. Haven't used them yet but they look to be a decent quality.

Just in case anyone wondered, especially if you were getting the FS wheels minus the tyre

Hold the bus a little bit there Ron and let us make sure we are not comparing lettuces and cabbages.

In the 6x4 and 8x4 size tyres the most common brands (only??) I have come across are Deli Tyres and Deestone. Forgetting about air craft tyres etc, these are the commonly available brands. Fallshaw tyres are made by somebody else who inserts the Fallshaw plate into the tyre mould.

Deli Tyres are the lettuces and Deestones are the cabbages.

Delis are fitted to blokarts as standard mainly because they are lighter and have better balance. However the compound is less durable and the casing less strong than the Deestones.

Dried grass stalks will puncture Delis. Deestones have tougher compound that will definitely last longer on bitumen and a stronger casing, however they have poor balance and are heavier.

If there are other brands of tyres that have the best features of both the above brands, please someone tells us what they are and where to buy them.

Yo! Grynch,
Those Kendas do you know where they were purchased?/
Looking at the larger varieties, they would appear to be of a Firmer Compound. Therefore I would suggest that they would wear better than -----let's say the Barrow tires. I have had a Hell of a time trying to get BrisKites Sysmik Rims. Every time I inquire they never have them and if I ordr them they take the money without having stocks. Buggered if I know what they think they are up too??
Ron

Just keep in mind the physics of the wheels and how they relate to land yachts....

heavy wheel / tyre = slower acceleration
light wheel / tyre = fast acceleration
large Dia. wheel / tyre = less rolling resistance
small Dia wheel / tyre = greater rolling resistance
light rim + heavy tyre = hard to balance
soft rubber + spin outs = wear out tyres
hard road tyres + spin outs = long lasting but heavy and slow
fat tyres good for soft sand = slow on hard surfaces

its about getting the combination right for your location and needs....
there is no one set up which is correct for ALL conditions.

Fallshaws seem to be the best average combination (for the moment) based on actual on the yacht testing over MANY years.
Many people do their own thing and go off in different directions to save just a few $$ but then eventually buy what was suggested in the first place, this then has cost them 2 sets of wheels. Hardly a $$$ saving exercise, just remember you will probably spend more on the main sheet rope and pulleys than the yacht wheels, so why ALL the fuss on just saving a dollar or 2 .

Do it right... Do it once!!!!

Nikrum said...


3103NT 4.80/4.00-8 4 TT D401 TRI RIB DEESTONE . 3 ribbed. located

http://www.widetread.net.au/mower_tyres_4-12.htm I don't klnow what the other guys think but for beach work and grassy conditions I would look seriously at these babies.. I do not think they will slide too easily.

Yes Gizmo but at times we have to take the Lessor of Two Weavel's.. If tires are going to be chopped out every few hours of running on Tarmac then we have to maybe look at a heavier harder compound.. I am running Aircraft tires as they give me better wear. Me thinks Maxxis Hookworms would chop out real quick under the use I would be giving them and they would be of little use on softer ground.

Ron

I noticed them also but i'm wondering what the original intended use is for that tyre... possibly small a tractor in soft soil which would mean quite heavy in the rib area.
If you were into serious racing, spinning out loses speed and positions in races... the ideal is s-m-o-o-t-h turns.