GPS safety

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Gizmo
Gizmo
SA
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SA, 2865 posts
27 Apr 2011 10:33am
This came through as an email from another sailing site and might be of interest to GPS users.

GPS speed sailing site... www.gps-icesailing.com/default.aspx

Hi Folks

I am an iceboater mostly. Lately gone to the hand held wing. (Free yourself from clattering equipment and get under a personal flying device.)

Beware of being consumed by a greed for speed. Here in the North East I have watched Folks sailing for speed stop watching where they are going. Folks get caught watching the GPS irrespective of the rest of the fleet sailing around them. I was a part of the ice boat sailing scene a few years back when hand held GPS devices first started to appear with boats on the ice. I think there is a direct correlation to gear being needlessly smashed and in some cases folks getting hurt, even killed, because they are/were pushing boats past a responsible limit, trying to carve a notch up over the other guys.

I think land sailors have better sailing rules than ice boaters and so your instincts around a fleet which is not racing are better.

This past winter I came as close to being wiped slick as it gets in a head to head with another ice boat who broke across my bow. The truth is I suspect he never saw me. Both boats were cruising at speeds around 50mph. A combined closing speed of 100mph makes for a lot of ground gained really fast.

Respectfully
Dicky Saltonstall
Nikrum
Nikrum
TAS
1972 posts
TAS, 1972 posts
27 Apr 2011 1:04pm
I don't know about the rest of you lads but my Data Logger is only readable through the PC and I haven't got a Power Lead long enough to use that in the Razor[}:)].
Alls I can do is Go "Oh! That felt quick and wait until I get home.
Ron
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
27 Apr 2011 2:26pm
Never had that problem on a windsurfer, you bounce around way too much to be able to see the screen as you go.

However I have had an experience which I think is relevant...

Ages ago I had a big 37cm fin that whistled when it was up to speed. It had distinct 'modes', which after a bit of practice could be used to tell what speed you were doing. At 28 knots it would whistle A, 30 knots was a distinctive B, 31.5 knots was C#, 33 knots was E, etc. Had a lot of fun adjusting sailing angle, sheeting angle, board trim etc and being able to know how fast the run was by the pitch of the whistle.

I'm not sure how you'd set this up on a landyacht, the important thing here was that it went in discrete notes, not a smoothly sliding scale.

Hang gliders use something similar, and in fact you can set up your GT-31 to beep the speed in morse code at you if you want...

Audio feedback is the way to go, imo
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
27 Apr 2011 4:36pm
Would seem to me that if one was watching the GPS instead of watching how he is sailing, he probably would not sail as fast as he could.

The blokarters have been mounting GPS on their handle bars which is a fairly ideal position especially if you ride down low in the kart.

The angle between looking at the GPS and where you are going is minimal and if you can get out of tunnel vision and into peripheral vision or have independant eyeballs you have the best of both worlds.

Data logging is obviously great for record keeping and analysis but that is after the fact and I don't see how it could help while you are sailing.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
27 Apr 2011 4:41pm
nebbian said...

However I have had an experience which I think is relevant...

Audio feedback is the way to go, imo


I like all that stuff nebbs.

Mate had a Yachting World Diamond that would humm when it got up to speed. Awesome!!!

Test pilot 1
Test pilot 1
WA
1430 posts
WA, 1430 posts
27 Apr 2011 3:12pm
I use GPS for fine tuning speed and can see where I am going as I use my peripheral vision. I download when I am bored/have nuttin else to do!
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
27 Apr 2011 7:13pm
in VINDICATOR your eyes move from the rotation indicator , to the gps, to the lake , to the Rt to the GPS to the lake.........
thats why I dont sail it in a crowd,there will always be a blokart to busy grinning to look around or TP1 with his tunnel vision[}:)]
Test pilot 1
Test pilot 1
WA
1430 posts
WA, 1430 posts
27 Apr 2011 11:07pm
Or TP1 towing him to get him rolling
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