Ideal Land Yacht Racing Circuit

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Gizmo
Gizmo
SA
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SA, 2865 posts
18 Aug 2009 7:32pm
What would people regard as the ideal circuit for landsailing? maybe a salt lake with corner markers exactly 1km apart in a square shape. (so it could be sailed in any direction and diagionals.) or something like blokart heaven in NZ.
And what would be the Ideal markers be...orange cones, piles of tyres, flags etc?
kiwi307
kiwi307
488 posts
488 posts
18 Aug 2009 6:39pm
Personally I think that the distance would depend entirely on the yacht.
1km in a Blokart is a long way, in a good 3 it's over in a flash.
I reckon a good hard dead upwind leg, a dead downwind and a couple of reaches for fun. The best I have ever sailed was a W on it's side. (Boy is this going to take some explaining?)
So, dead upwind connecting the uprights of the W, then bear away to gybe round the 3 apexes of the the W, back upwind, dead downwind, and repeat with a final upwind to finish. It had everything. A total of 13 legs of the course.
That's my tuppence worth!
j murray
j murray
SA
947 posts
SA, 947 posts
19 Aug 2009 9:30am
I can only add to the corner markers bit...... thinking that landyachting,
needs exposure. I could only move that these highly visible markers,
need to be self locating , as the wind changes and possibly should be the wives and girlfriends of the participating muktitude Or a giant
bottle-oh-rum with tap an panicking attached. A GPS point would be
interesting, sorta like that compass running thingo the masochists practice.
" cunning carrearing" , take your swag and water bottle
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
19 Aug 2009 9:14pm
so hard to choose,
If you have a small area you thirst for a big one. having the biggest venue of the lot as my playground , I love the challenge of a tricky beach,or a claypan with some vegetation or small islands.
Lake Walyungup(safety bay) is always a great place to rip around as it offers a completely challenging surface.
I do love a big patch of bitumen , which has brilliant steering challenges.
And really good smooth clay is just so amazing when you smoke the tyres on a turn..
Ideally for a small yacht, you need a variety of short and long courses, maybkeep the big yacht for the big venue.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
20 Aug 2009 1:35am
I am thinking 1040 acres (4.2 sq km), ocean front would be nice, laser levelled then covered with hot mix bitumen. At appropriate positions the hot mix is punctured by galvanised or stainless pieces of tube for the placement of turn markers to allow for a variety of courses to suit varying wind directions.

A couple of hundred acres could be cracker dust for the skid freaks.

One boundary of the property would front a major tourist thoroughfare and an adjacent boundary to that one would front the beach access road. On one of those boundaries would be located the car park, licenced club house and bistro, shaded pit area, fully equipped workshop with lathe, drill press, welders etc and of course the Hire and Tyre Shop.

The property would be owned by a body corporate whose membership would consist of millionaires whose main interest is in having tax writeoffs.

The body corporate would of course grant me exclusive and unaccountable management and marketing rights to the whole complex.

I think it would be a perfect course, so the only question is location. There is a bit of waste land between Bangalee and Rydges Capricorn Resort near Yeppoon that would fit the bill.
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
21 Aug 2009 2:14pm
kiwi307 said...

The best I have ever sailed was a W on it's side. (Boy is this going to take some explaining?)


They had a similar course one day at safety bay. Yachts going every where, but the right way. they had to tak the pilots around the course in a ute!!, and still they got it wrong!

kiwi307
kiwi307
488 posts
488 posts
21 Aug 2009 2:33pm
landyacht said...

kiwi307 said...

The best I have ever sailed was a W on it's side. (Boy is this going to take some explaining?)


They had a similar course one day at safety bay. Yachts going every where, but the right way. they had to tak the pilots around the course in a ute!!, and still they got it wrong!




Hmm, maybe this says something about the mental powers of landyachters, or a failure of organisers to draw it! When I was sailing this(and it's not uncommon on water) there were no issues at all!
bazl
bazl
WA
704 posts
WA, 704 posts
21 Aug 2009 4:47pm
kiwi307 said...

landyacht said...

kiwi307 said...

The best I have ever sailed was a W on it's side. (Boy is this going to take some explaining?)


They had a similar course one day at safety bay. Yachts going every where, but the right way. they had to tak the pilots around the course in a ute!!, and still they got it wrong!




Hmm, maybe this says something about the mental powers of landyachters, or a failure of organisers to draw it! When I was sailing this(and it's not uncommon on water) there were no issues at all!


Yep, pretty tricky. Left around a red marker and right around a green, except when the (Sandgropers) course setter gets them mixed up like the PACRIM '06 marathon! Somehow the course setter won that one, can't imagine how that happened...
Arjay
Arjay
VIC
267 posts
VIC, 267 posts
22 Aug 2009 1:59pm
lol I remember that mark!! a 270 degree turn???
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
22 Aug 2009 7:08pm
bazl said...
Yep, pretty tricky. Left around a red marker and right around a green, except when the (Sandgropers) course setter gets them mixed up like the PACRIM '06 marathon! Somehow the course setter won that one, can't imagine how that happened...

You must be getting forgetful, Baz, when the sandgroper setter arrived at the lake all the markers had disappeared over the horizon.
then we used an aerial photo and compass bearings , and lat/long to give the marker locations. All the flags were green( they were suppose to be orange).
the course setter was way back inthe placings due to his wing controls snapping on the start line

landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
23 Aug 2009 7:31pm
somedays a nice stretch of smmoooooooth clay is just the nicest thing ever.
I wasnt game to try sailing this with a 4m sail, 2.5 was all I was game for
when its like this the traction is awesome, if you turn hard at a mark , you get a full 3 wheel drift, with tyre squeal and burnt rubber smell
you can even see the groove marks from your tyres, and shoeprints clearly
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