What was the reason for it being a non event,there several rumours going around but no hard evidence.Lets get it out inthe open so that it wont happen again,as to travell long distances for an event and have it spoiled by a few who want to just want to do things there way .

in my case, "ignorance is bliss", sorry, no idea, wasn't there

I knew you were going to say that .

I interpreted your previous post as a complaint that no one had responded so I thought I would comply. If you didn't want anyone to respond why did you complain! Your attitude might be why no one wants to speak to you!

Thanks Splitpin, Once again its been a pleasure talking to you. If you ever want to chat again, just let me know.

landyacht said...

On the sunday Morning after 1 day of racing, I was personally informed by David Rose , President of ALSA that the event had been cancelled, and that I , Paul Day , AUS 3 was to blame . I believe that particular aspect of the event is common Knowledge.
Unfortunately, I and others do not know your true identity so it would be remiss of myself or others who were there to discuss further aspects of what was a a great friday of sailing and design testing on a South Australian Gypum lake of world class standard.
Have a nice day

Thanks Landyacht,there had to be a element of truth amongst it,so that it is now clear to me that the rest that i heard was probably second and probably third hand , and was only here say

Thats not what I said. What I said was I was "accused of causing it". .
i certainly wouldnt begin to accept the blame on this occasion.
since I'm a bit slow at speaking Anagrammian ,I afraid youll have to tell me what them there letter meant.

What is it with the same old same old of lake gilles. I only just made a comment yesterday at our race day that since the topic of ALSA was no longer, how seabreeze forums of landsailing has been tame and polite. ALSA looks like it is going to be run by W.A. after our agm in June. We've got what everone wanted, yet Splitpin is still not obviously happy with letting things be. Splitpin I think I know who you are. I'll keep watching and reading before I let the cat out the bag. Why can"t you just be happy and let the past be the past.

Good questions GIZMO, however if the current/old ALSA committee have all stood down simulatanoulsy. I would think it would be considered reasonable for Sandgopers (as they are possibly? the only reasonably functioning LYC that is currently recogniized by ALSA) being put in a *caretaker* role to govern ALSA in an interim period whilst all clubs get the opportunity to nominate their reps and get things rolling forward again in a constitional manner.

Lets face it the barn door was left open, the horses are all bolted. We all need to make the most of it now and try and round up those horses and start again. Lets give the Sandgropers the opportunity to help us all do this.

Sorry guys but my post was not posted to stir up a hornets nest. I was really only commenting on the negativity that appeared about Lake Gilles again. To be honest i don't know exactly what is to happen. I am assuming that when the nationals are held in 2010 a new committee will be voted in. I agree that the clubs would still have their delegates as they vote in etc. It would have to be run by the ALSA constitution.The delegates have all been sent letters apparently for their decision on to wether ALSA gets handed over to us. What happens after that I don't know.
I was trying to say it has been a pleasure reading the comments and humourish comments of late on seabreeze without the same old past comments. I thought it was all about moving forward and it lookes like it was happening. Sorry if what i said was taken the wrong way.

As I said earlier, that the delegates have been sent a letter for their approval for the handover of the ALSA books etc to Sandgropers 2009 committee. This meaning after our AGM in June as that will be the 2008/2009 committee is voted in. I know that the delegates of the affiliated clubs along with the ALSA committee make the decisions. I didn't mean that Sandgropers were now going to be the ALSA committee. I don't even know whether the President and Treasurer have or intend to resign. I assume they are waiting for the response from the delegates. I thought what I had been reading that a lot of people wanted a new ALSA committee. If what it looks like happening happens then they will get the opportunity to do this. Sandgropers cant do anything about the situation until further response from the current ALSA committee. I don't have all the knowledge that some of you guys obviously have but our club certainly does have some members that do. That doesn't mean they will want to take on any of the positions either. It is purely their decision. I think it is a matter of waiting to see what happens. As I said in my last post that I didn't intend to stir up a hornets nest, that my comment was more to comment on how the postings had changed away from the positive and fun to the negative. Its a shame as I enjoy reading some of your posts, but now won't bother to comment. This will be my last.

Yeah, you've come across a little bit abrasive there Gizmo, I'm sure that wasn't your intention. Donna was just making the point that the tone of the forum had improved now that we're looking to the future, something that you were instrumental in achieving. I'm sure everyone who needs to be be across all of the rules and regulations will be when they need to be.

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease keep posting Donna, don't let one little misunderstanding take you away from us. I've met Gizmo and he's a nice guy, I just think his post may have come out the wrong way. I suspect he just wants things to continue to improve and his message is probably directed at all of us not you.

To All
I came across this seabreeze site back in Feb and have enjoyed being back amongst like minded people. I fully acknowledge that I have not been in the competitive loop of land sailing for nearly 20yrs, I dont belong to any club and/or ALSA. I was heavily involved in the establishment of ALSA from the beginning, only some people would be aware of that but it explains my knowledge of the subject.

Over the last few months I have been contacted by many people who are active land sailors who are disappointed with the direction land sailing in Australia was heading. For the majority they felt their needs were not being met. I have played the role of a wise old Uncle with no intention of stiring up trouble for individuals or ALSA just listened and offered advice when required.

My posts over the last few days were not intended to upset anyone or rock any boat. My intention was only for everyone to be careful and to thoroughly inform themselves before people commit to something with possible unfortunate consquences.

Hear, Here.
I think it pays not to look for hidden meanings or emotions in posts to this site.

While to some, Gizmo's posts appear to be abrasive, to me they are quite "matter of fact". Nothing an engineer loves more than being precise.

He is absolutely correct in what he is saying re proceedural requirements of clubs and associations.

If WE (the collective of landsailors) want to get "Land Sailing in Australia" running right and "up there" with the other recognised sporting activities, WE need to get these basics right.

This Seabreeze Forum has proven to be the ideal place for US to communicate effectively and efficiently, so guys and gals, let's leave the anger and angst out and Keep It Fun!!! See posting guidelines 2, 4 and 6.

Donna, I sincerely hope you come back to the "round table" of the forum as we all do value your input.

Till we meet again Amigos!!

Yep, that'll fix it!

gizmo1160 said
[b]I WISH SOME PEOPLE ON THIS SITE STOPPED BEING SO #@%& PRECIOUS and actually got into with whats happening....
STOP playing the kiddie games and GET REAL ...if you DONT you will see the sport of Landsailing go down the plug hole !!!!!

I have to agree with that sentiment and statement of FACT. IE, stop playing games and get real or it will go down the hole.

Cheers Cisco.

cisco said...

gizmo1160 said
[b]I WISH SOME PEOPLE ON THIS SITE STOPPED BEING SO #@%& PRECIOUS and actually got into with whats happening....
STOP playing the kiddie games and GET REAL ...if you DONT you will see the sport of Landsailing go down the plug hole !!!!!

I have to agree with that sentiment and statement of FACT. IE, stop playing games and get real or it will go down the hole.

Cheers Cisco.

Well that's the great thing about public forums Cisco, we can all have differing opinions.

I don't agree, I don't think anyone on this forum is being too precious. If the only attitude tolerated in Landyachting is "you can all take a warm cup of harden the @#&% up" then you're only going to attract opinionated cantankerous old farts to the sport and I think we're full bottle on that front!!

Thanks for the constuctive feedback on my post Gizmo, but you are now starting to sound very much like some of the people I've spoken to who have been into landyachting for years and lets face it, landyachting has not been in a great place. If you want to continue with the same then I agree landyachting is going down the plug hole.

I want an environment where I can take my family and friends, but I wouldn't take them now nor will I in the future if that attitude continues. That's not being precious, its just natural to avoid environments like that. It’s a sport, its supposed to be fun not like the military. I cop enough of that attitude in my highly stressfull career and the CFS, I want to escape that in my chosen past time.

So if I may purlion your parlance, if that's all you understand... BACK THE @%#& OFF!!!
Cheers

Hills