A cruising cat that foils

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scruzin
scruzin
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Ramona
Ramona
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NSW, 7757 posts
13 Apr 2015 9:14am
Love the technology and that reacher is a pearler. Not sure if I could handle the motion at anchor for long. A glass of wine does not make it a cruiser.
scruzin
scruzin
SA
564 posts
SA, 564 posts
13 Apr 2015 10:33am
It looks to me like there is a little more potential for heeling when under foil (compared to a displacement cat).
The motion at anchor, on the other hand, seems similar to other cruising cats, i.e., a little bit of hobby-horsing about the anchor bridle.

I love the idea of being able to zip around at those speeds though. It would transform sailing in places like SA where every interesting destination is 60 nautical miles away - or further (excepting Yorke Peninsula).

I wonder how the foil would work in 3m seas though...


FreeRadical
FreeRadical
WA
855 posts
WA, 855 posts
13 Apr 2015 10:41am
Looks like a leisurely way to cruise? i could imagine the admiral constantly trimming the whole way to keep it foiling. Funny, the crew kicking back drinking wine don't seem to be the same ones cruising along (aka working their butts off) at 30 odd knots.


JAKE123
JAKE123
QLD
314 posts
QLD, 314 posts
13 Apr 2015 5:37pm
looks about ready to dig in and pitchpole at any second. i would love to see it off the breeze in some swell.
DrRog
DrRog
NSW
608 posts
NSW, 608 posts
13 Apr 2015 5:45pm
"A glass of wine does not a cruiser make". Fantastic. There's bugger all about this that is a cruiser. Everything's carbon fibre. Do they make washing machines in carbon?

Fantastic fun, but most cruisers would be upsidedown in no time.
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
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13 Apr 2015 8:21pm
Hardly what I call a cruiser, maybe useful for coastal hopping or a very glorified day sailer. Everyone should keep a bar of soap handy as those wave piercing bows will ensure that everyone gets a good drenching.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
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20 Apr 2015 9:28am
Follow up video!


Crusoe
Crusoe
QLD
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20 Apr 2015 9:33am
Yeah that's what I was thinking.
DrRog
DrRog
NSW
608 posts
NSW, 608 posts
20 Apr 2015 7:02pm
Ah, the cruising life...
crustysailor
crustysailor
VIC
871 posts
VIC, 871 posts
21 Apr 2015 2:05pm
so no comments on the actual capsize in Ramona's vid above?

From the first vid, if someone had said this cat is going to go over, I would have thought a pitchpole would have been most likely.
With pretty fine bows and it's motion on the foils, I could imaging burying the bows into the next wave as is comes down and tripping up.

Watching the above though, it looks simply like the main wasn't able to be dumped in time, and she sailed over quite conventionally, almost AC45 style.

Glad no one was seriously hurt

DrRog
DrRog
NSW
608 posts
NSW, 608 posts
21 Apr 2015 9:22pm
crustysailor said..
so no comments on the actual capsize in Ramona's vid above?


Yeah, mine was.
HG02
HG02
VIC
5814 posts
VIC, 5814 posts
21 Apr 2015 10:40pm
Did the keel boat pass that cat eventually
FreeRadical
FreeRadical
WA
855 posts
WA, 855 posts
21 Apr 2015 8:51pm
The helmsman trims the main with hydraulic foot pedals.




Ramona
Ramona
NSW
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NSW, 7757 posts
22 Apr 2015 10:07am
crustysailor said..
so no comments on the actual capsize in Ramona's vid above?

From the first vid, if someone had said this cat is going to go over, I would have thought a pitchpole would have been most likely.
With pretty fine bows and it's motion on the foils, I could imaging burying the bows into the next wave as is comes down and tripping up.

Watching the above though, it looks simply like the main wasn't able to be dumped in time, and she sailed over quite conventionally, almost AC45 style.

Glad no one was seriously hurt



The cat was broad reaching when she capsized. The boat is traveling that fast that the relative wind is well forward so it is effectively sailing upwind as it sails downwind! Much like an iceboat. That's why the main is cleated in fairly tight. Dumping the main might not have helped much. When I raced cats the theory was to drive further offwind in this situation, rounding up and dumping the main was to be avoided. Regular cat sailors might be able to make more accurate assessments.
waheed
waheed
WA
30 posts
WA, 30 posts
22 Apr 2015 9:20am
I saw it and thought they should have run down with the gust more. Soon as the boat headed up it went over faster. For all we know though the rudders may have stalled....
crustysailor
crustysailor
VIC
871 posts
VIC, 871 posts
22 Apr 2015 2:20pm
yes and there was also the suggestion on other forums that it may have been an 'encouraged' capsize, whether as part of the normal testing or for publicity.
eg: builder seems ok with it in the vid

not sure if I'm buying this theory but given it was apparently a gun crew charged with testing the boat to the limit, I'd also expect the helmsman would have the experience to drive as required, or yes maybe the blades did stall.

of course easy for all of the above speculation.
Still an amazing boat that would be great to see in action.
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
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22 Apr 2015 4:34pm
With those wave piercing bows that boat would be way too wet for me. Going fast is fun, but being constantly wet certainly is not.
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