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Adding a Bowsprit

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Created by Bundeenabuoy A week ago, 5 Aug 2019
Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 589 posts
5 Aug 2019 6:23AM
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I am just in the early stages of considering adding a bowsprit.
Has anyone put one on their boat?
Am I allowed to use one while racing?

twodogs1969
NSW, 913 posts
5 Aug 2019 6:44AM
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Seldom sell one.

Tamble
133 posts
5 Aug 2019 5:05AM
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twodogs1969 said..
Seldom sell one.


I think he means Selden.
Unless of course he's a purveyor of boating parts who does actually seldom sell one.

If you are talking about a bowsprit for an asymmetrical, they Selden do in fact sell a retractable one. Our Bavaria had the hard points moulded in to fit one (although an in the way Rocna anchor prevented us from going down that path).
If you look on line you will also find European manufactures of after market fixed ones.

They are good for asymmetrical but do have the effect of increasing your marina fees.

sirgallivant
NSW, 1433 posts
5 Aug 2019 8:15AM
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I solved that problem with this mod on the already existing "bow sprit".
It only needed a bit of strengthening and it works a treat for cruising.
I flew my huge assy off it and it was working perfectly.
Naturally, it is only used up to about 12-14 knots of wind, above that the big sail was over powering the boat. At that wind the big genoa was employed and kept on going up to 22-24 knots wind.

It was all mostly single handed cruising, thou.



Sectorsteve
NSW, 2136 posts
5 Aug 2019 10:18AM
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John are you back in town? still got stuff to sell????

twodogs1969
NSW, 913 posts
5 Aug 2019 10:58AM
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Tamble said..

twodogs1969 said..
Seldom sell one.



I think he means Selden.
Unless of course he's a purveyor of boating parts who does actually seldom sell one.

If you are talking about a bowsprit for an asymmetrical, they Selden do in fact sell a retractable one. Our Bavaria had the hard points moulded in to fit one (although an in the way Rocna anchor prevented us from going down that path).
If you look on line you will also find European manufactures of after market fixed ones.

They are good for asymmetrical but do have the effect of increasing your marina fees.


Yeah I meant selden auto correct .
I was talking about the retractable one.
On the Mottle just cruising I use the same system at Sir Galivant suggested
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Tamble said..

twodogs1969 said..
Seldom sell one.



I think he means Selden.
Unless of course he's a purveyor of boating parts who does actually seldom sell one.

If you are talking about a bowsprit for an asymmetrical, they Selden do in fact sell a retractable one. Our Bavaria had the hard points moulded in to fit one (although an in the way Rocna anchor prevented us from going down that path).
If you look on line you will also find European manufactures of after market fixed ones.

They are good for asymmetrical but do have the effect of increasing your marina fees.


Yeah I meant selden auto correct the retractable type.
I do use the same system as Sir Galivant suggested on the Mottle cruising with a strip that goes around the furled Genoa.
However for racing go the retractable bowsprit.

Planeray
NSW, 141 posts
5 Aug 2019 12:41PM
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Yep, I've got a retractable Selden sprit on my deck. Added as an aftermarket by previous owner.

I deploy it and leave it out during the whole race, just raising the assy in the downwind legs. Then I put it away at the end of the race.

Tamble
133 posts
5 Aug 2019 12:31PM
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One thing to beware of with the sirgallvant solution is the pressure it can put on the hull deck join.
Notice on the picture the bow roller is one piece with a stem strip that is bolted through the hull; sharing the load.

Some of the Euro boats just have a roller bolted to the deck, so that arrangement is in danger of pulling the deck from the hull under load unless you weld or bolt the roller to the forestay chainplate.

boatbroke
NSW, 5 posts
5 Aug 2019 7:25PM
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Hi Bundeenabouy,

There are a couple of brands out there that are pretty straight forward to retrofit onto most hulls.

Should be able to race with it not a problem at club level as the handicaps are based on past club performance. If your racing IRC (or alike) the boat will need to have a new rating certificate.

Something to consider is that you may need a couple of new kites to suit the bow sprit too...

Good luck with it mate.

Adam

Stratussailor
NSW, 12 posts
10 Aug 2019 6:09PM
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The Australian distributor for the Trogear bowsprit is Bombora Marine in Sydney - www.bomboramarine.com.au/Trogear. There are 5 standard and also custom up to 2 metres.









sirgallivant
NSW, 1433 posts
Tuesday , 13 Aug 2019 1:21PM
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John's boat is an old 26 footer, for 850 euro one could make it out of SS and keep the 500 euro for beer money.

sydchris
NSW, 235 posts
Tuesday , 13 Aug 2019 2:06PM
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sirgallivant said..
John's boat is an old 26 footer, for 850 euro one could make it out of SS and keep the 500 euro for beer money.



Something like this, probably: www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bow-Sprit-S-S/323871032676

madmission
VIC, 213 posts
Tuesday , 13 Aug 2019 3:44PM
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sirgallivant said..
John's boat is an old 26 footer, for 850 euro one could make it out of SS and keep the 500 euro for beer money.



I couldn't agree more , I have had this on my boat for many years now similar to the pivoting designs and is simply made from the appropriate size aluminium .
Bonus was no drilling required and easily pivoted up out the way near other boats and in marinas.
IMHO there is no substitute for getting the tack well clear of the bow when using assy's etc.







Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 589 posts
Wednesday , 14 Aug 2019 6:33AM
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Sectorsteve said..
John are you back in town? still got stuff to sell????


What are you looking for?

sirgallivant
NSW, 1433 posts
Wednesday , 14 Aug 2019 7:20AM
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Me John!

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 589 posts
Wednesday , 14 Aug 2019 7:24AM
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Bundeenabuoy said..
I am just in the early stages of considering adding a bowsprit.
Has anyone put one on their boat?
Am I allowed to use one while racing?


This discussion has been very worthwhile to me.

The top of the range is Trogear.
The total cost would be around $8500.
Trogear bowsprit $1600.
Bobstay, side mounts if desired, line to cockpit etc and labour $1400.
Two new sails, Code Zero and Assy $5500.

I will have to think very hard before I put that amount of money into my boat.




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