Any Simpson Cloud 9 Catamaran owners out there ?

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BlueDogOz
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13 Feb 2021 10:33pm
Here is my helm, and where your cabinet bump out ( and up) is for the head headroom


and now the head - that is designed to destroy any potential for shipboard romance -
Can i assume that the nasty looking access portal is for the port bilge ?I think it is under a blue mat in your boat.





And a view of the rear





The engine controls are mismatched because the starboard is a 2 year old Yanmar 3my20 (99hours) with a sd25 and the port is an older 2gm20 (2800 hrs) with an SD20.

BlueDogOz
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14 Feb 2021 2:58am
Just realised that your chainplates in that area are fixed to the side of the coachwork, while mine are at 90 degrees to that, flush with the face of the cockpit forward bulkhead.Staying below those will cost me some vertical space, as I would doubt my confidence to relocate them on the fly, would have to be done as part of a full standing rigging refit, and apparently that was done in 2016, so not necessary any time soon.
But when it is done, it will probably be time to replace the chainplates entirely so......Ahh well, even a moderate headroom increase would be desirable, its pitiful at the moment.
BlueDogOz
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14 Feb 2021 2:58am
Just realised that your midship (?) chainplates in that area are fixed to the side of the coachwork, while mine are at 90 degrees to that, flush with the face of the cockpit forward bulkhead.

Staying below those will cost me some vertical space, as I would doubt my confidence to relocate them on the fly, would have to be done as part of a full standing rigging refit, and apparently that was done in 2016, so not necessary any time soon.

But when it is done, it will probably be time to replace the chainplates entirely so......
Ahh well, even a moderate headroom increase would be desirable, its pitiful at the moment.
grich62
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14 Feb 2021 9:58am
maybe you can build chanels to allow the stay to pass through the hard top ,you could use water drain pipe to make a mould.
remember that you would have to also move your throtal controls to increase the wc height mine are up and forward
BlueDogOz
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14 Feb 2021 11:21am
grich62 said..
maybe you can build chanels to allow the stay to pass through the hard top ,you could use water drain pipe to make a mould.
remember that you would have to also move your throtal controls to increase the wc height mine are up and forward










good points, but I think a shipwright may have problems if I just cut away whatevet bulkhead/reinforcing (that is presumably there) immediately below the chain plates.

i'd say thats why they had yours customised/relocated to the side.I'll have to get back to the boat and see what is under the interior carpeted cover that conceals the interior chain-plate fixings, if its a flange/mini-bulkhead that carries the tension down to the hull/bridgedeck, independent of the bump out for location the throttle controls, then it could be a non-trivial problem to under/over cut that structurally loaded chord.

On the other hand that could just be part of the forward wall of the head volume, will have to be there to check :(

I think that is what is on the starboard side where there is no bulkhead/door , just a permanent opening with a flange running down the port side of the opening- but i don't seem to have taken a photo - yet i thought i did !!??

However i'm certain that if that is the case a smarter engineer/person than I will have a solution.

Perhaps at worst it will have to wait for the full pull out and refurbish in 2022 and relocate them like yours.
early days yet.

Check design 5 times, measure 3 times and cut once - and still i can stuff it up ;)
grich62
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14 Feb 2021 5:25pm



inside mounting of chain plate
BlueDogOz
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14 Feb 2021 7:30pm
grich62 said..



inside mounting of chain plate


Thanks , I found another cloud nine owner in Indonesia who has an interesting version with a drop down outboard in a pod in the cockpit
I'm hoping he will join up and soon post in this thread as well.
He tried to start up a Simpson Facebook group but got little response. I have not seen his head area as yet, and i won't post the photo's he has sent me or put up on Facebook without checking with him first.
BlueDogOz
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23 Feb 2021 11:01pm
another for sale here as a project
www.gumtree.com.au/s-view-details.html?adId=1267785730





grich62
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24 Feb 2021 7:53am
dont no if i like the rose wood colour ,i have decided to build a new hard top,i have brought the materials,i will start this when i finish building a new dingy



BlueDogOz
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24 Feb 2021 2:26pm
that will be an interesting build, I intimately would like to replace my existing hardtop,but that would be at least a year away, in the meantime I would "just" try to raise it the necessary 12cms.
grich62
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25 Feb 2021 7:12pm
more of the dingy build
























BlueDogOz
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27 Feb 2021 10:39am
2gm20 SD20 Port





3My20 SD25 Starboard














grich62
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27 Feb 2021 2:02pm
aniods look ok,check them out next haul out,you have counter rotating props
Ramona
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27 Feb 2021 5:15pm
That port anode is going to last well covered in paint!
grich62
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27 Feb 2021 9:29pm
romona is right there does appear to be paint on that anoide, maybe a swim and try to scrape of the paint.
grich62
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28 Feb 2021 3:58pm
Blue Dog Oz yachthub.com/list/boats-for-sale/used/power-boats/simpson/255501 ,this simpson seems to have a lot of the rear cabin moulds as mine, austral might of ended up with molds
BlueDogOz
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1 Mar 2021 4:35pm
grich62 said..
Blue Dog Oz yachthub.com/list/boats-for-sale/used/power-boats/simpson/255501 ,this simpson seems to have a lot of the rear cabin moulds as mine, austral might of ended up with molds










good pick up there, it is exceedingly familiar :) like the lighter coloured lining, I've got that 80's tweed look carpet :(

that more open access to the front and top of the engines looks very tempting/functional

the repainted over anodes was a DIY by previous owner.

previous gumtree add at $92K, now here for $110K yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-catamarans/simpson-cloud-nine/258580
grich62
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2 Mar 2021 7:03pm
grich62 said..
more of the dingy build




































fiberglasing finished now just fair and paint
BlueDogOz
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2 Mar 2021 10:09pm
Hmmm .... Did i mention I know of a cloud nine that needs a tender ? :)
Looking very impressive )
BlueDogOz
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3 Mar 2021 4:15pm
Not certain I like the Name but here are three videos by the newly appointed Broker

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know the owner spent a LOt ($80K+) on new engines, fitour etc
grich62
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3 Mar 2021 4:18pm
am i right in thinking that the hardtop is very low.
BlueDogOz
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3 Mar 2021 7:41pm
no, its actually good for about 6'1'- 6'2' underneath.the seller is 6'4" and he has the bottom of the cockpit roof is level with the top of his forehead. its above his eye level
grich62
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8 Apr 2021 1:23pm
grich62 said..

grich62 said..
more of the dingy build





































fiberglasing finished now just fair and paint






ok i finished painting and fitting out the dingy ,took it down and tested for fit on the boat,lifts and fits good,put on me 4hp and went for a run in the bay,wont plane but handled the wind chop well. At easter tried it out with the wife in it,work out well ,the wife found it easer to get out of at the beach as the 2 hulls on the beach was more stable for her .Only extra i am going to do are 2 bench seats that float to help if i fill it with water.

Ramona
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8 Apr 2021 6:12pm
Catamarans never plane!
grich62
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8 Apr 2021 8:05pm
i should say, it don,t go fast.But i built it to take a lot more horse power and break water from the stern and go faster but i could flip it so no racing those blow ups into the beach.My mate who is very light gets his 2.2 devel cat absolutely flying with a 2hp honda,i might talk one of the kids into giving it a go.



same style dingy with wat looks like a 4 or 5 hp yamaha,its got the top fuel tank
BlueDogOz
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29 Apr 2021 11:06pm
you have kids to spare ?
grich62
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3 May 2021 5:00pm
BlueDogOz said..
you have kids to spare ?

mates kids,mine is grown up
BlueDogOz
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BlueDogOz
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11 May 2021 2:01pm
helm with bump out for head


BlueDogOz
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11 May 2021 2:06pm
head interior




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