Battle of the pocket cruisers

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Lazyjack
Lazyjack
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4 posts
23 Feb 2023 12:10pm
Tophat 25 (II or III) is better than a Compass 28. Change my mind.
Yara
Yara
NSW
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NSW, 1322 posts
23 Feb 2023 3:39pm
Not a fair comparison. TH is 25ft compared to a 28ft boat. Diesel more likely in C28 if you want. C28 generally more expensive.
Lazyjack
Lazyjack
4 posts
4 posts
23 Feb 2023 12:46pm
...LWL and hull speed notwithstanding
FabulousPhill
FabulousPhill
VIC
336 posts
VIC, 336 posts
23 Feb 2023 4:20pm
C28 bigger than TH. More space inside, more space for stuff. More ballast, etc.
A bit more painting when it comes to a/f time.
Horses for courses; just the same as the other post - with diesel or OB motor. The word "better" is subjective, and it is a personal weighing of all the aspects.
Newmo
Newmo
VIC
471 posts
VIC, 471 posts
23 Feb 2023 5:32pm
Walker H28 Ketch, better than both those mentioned
woko
woko
NSW
1802 posts
NSW, 1802 posts
23 Feb 2023 8:41pm
Newmo said..
Walker H28 Ketch, better than both those mentioned


I know a choey lee vessel that is extremely similar to a h28, I've had a bit to do with a " as drawn timber h28 " I'm curious as to the difference, if any in the way of lines ? And how does the walker h28 compare ?
shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter
QLD
2682 posts
QLD, 2682 posts
23 Feb 2023 8:29pm
Lazyjack said..
Tophat 25 (II or III) is better than a Compass 28. Change my mind.



Ok. This should change your mind from both.



r13
r13
NSW
1721 posts
r13 r13
NSW, 1721 posts
23 Feb 2023 10:07pm
Great boat the Ross 780 but wouldn't term it a pocket cruiser capable of offshore sailing like I assume the post is meaning..............

johncrawfordmarine.com.au/ross-780/371-ross-780-seaspray-magazine-story/file

www.facebook.com/people/Australian-Ross-780-Association/100064580775688/?paipv=0&eav=Afaz-SMdgoF2RO-QBcJqP7ikhJMSi3nUCQrFVgFGQ2iIsYuWITnveTBRXxwRNYiJPUQ&_rdr
shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter
QLD
2682 posts
QLD, 2682 posts
23 Feb 2023 9:39pm


You're probably right R13. Just having some fun with the brevity, allows one a degree of latitude in interpretation .
BeamReach
BeamReach
SA
167 posts
SA, 167 posts
23 Feb 2023 10:35pm
woko said..

Newmo said..
Walker H28 Ketch, better than both those mentioned



I know a choey lee vessel that is extremely similar to a h28, I've had a bit to do with a " as drawn timber h28 " I'm curious as to the difference, if any in the way of lines ? And how does the walker h28 compare ?


Nice Walker 28, with a recent Yanmar engine and a Fleming Windvane.
Excellent buying, was $24,990 for some time, but wasn't snapped up.

Have a look at this one...

1980 Walker H28 Cutter | Haese Marine
Yara
Yara
NSW
1322 posts
NSW, 1322 posts
23 Feb 2023 11:13pm
BeamReach said..

woko said..


Newmo said..

Walker H28 Ketch, better than both those mentioned




I know a choey lee vessel that is extremely similar to a h28, I've had a bit to do with a " as drawn timber h28 " I'm curious as to the difference, if any in the way of lines ? And how does the walker h28 compare ?



Nice Walker 28, with a recent Yanmar engine and a Fleming Windvane.

Excellent buying, was $24,990 for some time, but wasn't snapped up.


Have a look at this one...


1980 Walker H28 Cutter | Haese Marine

Nice boat, been on and off the market for years. However the Walker H28 is a much bigger boat (4 t) compared to a 2t Tophat
Lazyjack
Lazyjack
4 posts
4 posts
23 Feb 2023 8:47pm
BeamReach said..

woko said..


Newmo said..
Walker H28 Ketch, better than both those mentioned




I know a choey lee vessel that is extremely similar to a h28, I've had a bit to do with a " as drawn timber h28 " I'm curious as to the difference, if any in the way of lines ? And how does the walker h28 compare ?



Nice Walker 28, with a recent Yanmar engine and a Fleming Windvane.
Excellent buying, was $24,990 for some time, but wasn't snapped up.

Have a look at this one...

1980 Walker H28 Cutter | Haese Marine



BeamReach said..

woko said..


Newmo said..
Walker H28 Ketch, better than both those mentioned




I know a choey lee vessel that is extremely similar to a h28, I've had a bit to do with a " as drawn timber h28 " I'm curious as to the difference, if any in the way of lines ? And how does the walker h28 compare ?



Nice Walker 28, with a recent Yanmar engine and a Fleming Windvane.
Excellent buying, was $24,990 for some time, but wasn't snapped up.

Have a look at this one...

1980 Walker H28 Cutter | Haese Marine


BeamReach - if you mean the sloop, yeah I had a squiz. Looks nice.except for the wet bilge and the suspect chainplate. Still - it's probably repairable for not too much.
winkali
winkali
26 posts
26 posts
24 Feb 2023 6:50am
For what it's worth I know of a couple of top hats that have circumnavigated. I have a Triton24 and yes there are better off shore boats. However I know of one T24 that circumnavigated via Cape Horn with 2 aboard and arrived back in Oz with a third aboard (baby)
Pick you your weather windows and the world is your oyster
Winkali??
BlueMoon
BlueMoon
866 posts
866 posts
24 Feb 2023 4:27pm
C28 gets up to 6kts with a lot less effort than the TH.
C28 bounces around less, like a cork in a seaway.
C28 head area and storage opposite is nice.
C28 probably less weather helm.
Outboard motor is perfectly viable on a TH.
Saloon layout is terrible in the C28.
TH a bit easier to man-handle in marinas.
TH mast compression support better than C28.
TH cheaper to buy and run.
Enclosed chainplates on C28 a bit dubious.
Pretty similar i reckon....but C28 about half to 1 knt faster makes a big difference to me.
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