Ed Dubois design based on Admirals Cup winning boat Police Car.

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MAGNESIUM
MAGNESIUM
232 posts
232 posts
10 Feb 2025 11:00am
This boat really appeals to me, I believe it would still make a very competitive boat for offshore racing, I wouldn't be surprised if $15,000 would buy it,
either a syndicate of like minded competitive sailors or a skipper who has the means to refit it , a boat that can easily do over 20kts sounds like one heck of fun.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/dubois-43-ior-racer/318982
Kankama
Kankama
NSW
830 posts
NSW, 830 posts
10 Feb 2025 7:21pm
How would it go downhill? I only ever sailed Madman's Woodyard, a 31, and she was terrible downhill compared to, well almost any boat I have sailed. Maybe a Laser is worse. Cruising a race boat that can't get it on downwind would not make sense to me.
JonE
JonE
VIC
623 posts
VIC, 623 posts
10 Feb 2025 9:19pm
Kankama said..
craising a race boat that can't get it on downwind would not make sense to me.


Concur
sparau
sparau
QLD
132 posts
QLD, 132 posts
11 Feb 2025 12:01am
4.6m beam ! Yoiks, thats a girthy lass. So I'm guessing in swell downwind the wetted surface area would change dramatically amidships causing it to yaw? Am I on the money for why you are saying it would be a handfull?
JonE
JonE
VIC
623 posts
VIC, 623 posts
11 Feb 2025 9:47am
It's in the category of "pay someone to take it away". That boat will be costing > 10 grand a year in marina fees.

Also, it's got Kevlar in it (the most absorbent material ever) with a gaping hole in the stern....
lydia
lydia
1944 posts
1944 posts
11 Feb 2025 4:07pm
Kankama said..
How would it go downhill? I only ever sailed Madman's Woodyard, a 31, and she was terrible downhill compared to, well almost any boat I have sailed. Maybe a Laser is worse. Cruising a race boat that can't get it on downwind would not make sense to me.



Can't see the issue!
About 1996 Coffs Race , plenty of SW just after start which was carried to Smokey Cape then a big stop.
Maybe did nearly 5000 miles on the Woodduck over 5 years.
Delight downhill. Beach Inspector was maybe better.
As said in an earlier post you could still take the kids offshore then.




Kankama
Kankama
NSW
830 posts
NSW, 830 posts
11 Feb 2025 10:22pm
Glad you replied - I am not that sure but I remember thinking we needed lots of fat people up the back. When the rudder went we had awful trouble getting her to Eden. I would rather a boat with more directional stability for if the rudder ever does go - or make a proper jury rudder before you go offshore. There was a bloke who had to leave his nice fat bummed Beneteu thing a few year ago because the rudder failed and he just couldn't get it to go without a rudder. Lost steering on a bar on a Cav 32 - sailed her back out the bar with no rudder and then took her back in with the emergency tiller - I liked that the older style underbody had some directional stability.

But I sail cats now - so I am out of the game.
lydia
lydia
1944 posts
1944 posts
12 Feb 2025 2:35am
MAGNESIUM said..
This boat really appeals to me, I believe it would still make a very competitive boat for offshore racing, I wouldn't be surprised if $15,000 would buy it,
either a syndicate of like minded competitive sailors or a skipper who has the means to refit it , a boat that can easily do over 20kts sounds like one heck of fun.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/dubois-43-ior-racer/318982


Indigo is the forerunner to Victory and very different to Police Car.
It is masthead rig to start with and does not have the step stern.
The big problem with it now would be the space frame construction which was never designed to last this long.
So moist likely need to replace the framing with composites.
Ambler
Ambler
TAS
123 posts
TAS, 123 posts
22 Feb 2025 10:36pm
I would fit a centre board just in front of the spade rudder for better directional stability. I saw that done once with remarkable results for easy downwind sailing.

I sailed on a similar era Peterson 42 that is fingertip steered upwind but the tiller loads up horrifically down wind especially with a kite up
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