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badinfluence
badinfluence
QLD
538 posts
QLD, 538 posts
8 Jan 2012 2:35pm
Hi all

please be patient with me and I'm asking that you refrain from jumping down my throat. I need help...I hate to admit that I've always had a Dad or a partner to do some of the blokey stuff on board and my skill set is seriously lacking...but now, I'm all grown up and doing it alone. I don't intend just using the Forum as a knowledge base...reading heaps and hanging with the right crew in the flesh as well.

Sooooo...first question. I want to keep fuelled up, ready to go whenever I want. Powered by an outboard and have the fuel in plastic jerry cans. Does petrol go 'off'???

Thanks
Trace
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7756 posts
NSW, 7756 posts
8 Jan 2012 6:32pm
badinfluence said...

Hi all


Sooooo...first question. I want to keep fuelled up, ready to go whenever I want. Powered by an outboard and have the fuel in plastic jerry cans. Does petrol go 'off'???

Thanks
Trace



Yes it does. Usually not a problem as it still "works". Most people in a home environment would just put it through their old 2 stroke lawn mower.

Biggest problem you can have with outboard fuel is water. Do not use ethanol [E10]. This has a habit of absorbing water from the atmosphere. Pay the extra and use the real stuff, ULP in most cases and use the recommended RON, most cases its 91.
sctpc
sctpc
VIC
80 posts
VIC, 80 posts
8 Jan 2012 6:58pm
As Ramona says yes, I try not to keep it more than 3 months but upto 12 months would be ok. But it would be better keept away from the boat if you can.

May I ask you a strange question? Why must you store it? it takes 10 mins to stop at the servo on the way to the boat.

Oh and welcome to Seabreeze its a grate little Aussie Forum.
Charriot
Charriot
QLD
880 posts
QLD, 880 posts
8 Jan 2012 6:48pm
We use to store petrol, as a back up. Always in metal jerrycan. Fuel system / old days /
always has water. Before first winter freezing temperatures, we pour 1/2 liter methanol
in the tank. Methanol mixes with water and cleans the whole system. Easily is burnt
and no worries.
Since we have green petrol I stop adding methanol, but for long storage
I suggest use good petrol and a glass metho add in.
We have no idea how much moisture is already in green petrol and,
you don't wont a risk it.
slainte
slainte
QLD
2246 posts
QLD, 2246 posts
8 Jan 2012 8:50pm
Hey Trace, good to see you back in the Sailing forum. There are addatives for fuel that is stored for long periods. I haven,t used any myself in trhe 2 stroke but have seen it advertised on I Fish. Water is the major concern in any fuel as we found out on our first trip to Peel in the Boomerang. Check out supercrap or repco they should have some good products.
Cheers
Ken
Agent000
Agent000
161 posts
161 posts
8 Jan 2012 11:25pm
hi all, thought I would put my 2 cents in.
we always keep loaded up with fuel in a jerry and then mix the two stroke as needed. stops me trying to run the ob tank empty then stresssing about running out of fuel. (love to say that its cos I sail all the time and don't use the motor but more that I don't sail enough)
happy sailing bad influence and enjoy the freedom of being able to make your own mistakes/victories
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
9 Jan 2012 4:05am
If petrol is kept in a sealed container, theoreticaly it should retain it's octane level.

A swollen container of petrol on deck (the only place I would store it) could benefit from an occasional dousing of cooler water.

Good Night Folks.
badinfluence
badinfluence
QLD
538 posts
QLD, 538 posts
9 Jan 2012 6:49pm
Thanks for your help on this one. Will just keep it simple and keep minimum stores on board until needed.

Good to be back amongst the Forum after a hectic festive season.

Trace
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
1227 posts
WA, 1227 posts
15 Jan 2012 11:53pm
badinfluence said...
Does petrol go 'off'???

Officially it's good for aviation use for 2 years if stored in a full, sealed, air tight container. I'd read that as at least 10 years for most Earth-bound uses if stored likewise.

highnoon
highnoon
VIC
602 posts
VIC, 602 posts
16 Jan 2012 9:38am
The general rule of thumb is not to store the fuel for longer than 3 months If possible, and not to store it in direct sunlight, Keep it somewhere dark and cool
Cheers huni
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2575 posts
NSW, 2575 posts
17 Jan 2012 10:34am
no such thing as a silly question. only stupid answers
Charriot
Charriot
QLD
880 posts
QLD, 880 posts
18 Jan 2012 9:57am
My grandpa used to say " When you ask stupid question expect stupid answer ".
Sorry, it wasn't silly question anyway.
I had 2 years in plastic container power plane fuel, fulled up, plane didn't
fall from the sky.
Lesson is - if you have some ethanol or metho -moisture is never problem.
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