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cammd
cammd
QLD
4470 posts
QLD, 4470 posts
10 Jun 2026 11:30am
I don't mind a bit of controversy, it usually creates interesting conversation, that said.

I don't get the trend towards huge solar arrays combined with huge lithium banks. I'm at anchor atm on a miserable day, instead of worrying about power I run the genset and bring the fridge back to -20, the webasto is heating water for a shower and heating the salon, the dehumidifier is drying it out and the water maker is topping off the tanks and when I shut it all down in an hour everything sorted and the batteries are back over 90% with all the chores done. On a sunny day the small solar 180w array I have keeps topping them off because the power needs are basically zero for the rest of the day until night time.

I can live with the noise for an hour or so a day and I dont have to weigh the arse end of the boat down with huge UGLY arch and panel structure.

If my genset died I would buy another, a northern lights. Yet I see people on YT throw away gesets that still work. I don't get it.
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2575 posts
NSW, 2575 posts
10 Jun 2026 12:02pm
10 boats in a beautiful isolated and quiet anchorage. 7 have generators that each run an hour a day then a few do at night as well…. Don’t know about you but that’s not what I’m sailing for.
cammd
cammd
QLD
4470 posts
QLD, 4470 posts
10 Jun 2026 12:22pm
saltiest1 said..
10 boats in a beautiful isolated and quiet anchorage. 7 have generators that each run an hour a day then a few do at night as well…. Don’t know about you but that’s not what I’m sailing for.


10 boats in an anchorage doesn't sound that isolated. It doesn't bother me at all, everyone has needs that must be met in order to keep their floating world operating.

People talk about how many days of silence they can go as if its some sort of achievement. I think that is ridiculous, your not living off the land in some sort of natural nirvana where your one with nature. Your in a boat, its like the starship enterprise, you need to power it and keep all life systems running so you can go where no man has been before. 10 boats in an anchorage is still the marina 😱


cammd
cammd
QLD
4470 posts
QLD, 4470 posts
10 Jun 2026 12:24pm
OMG someone just pulled into the anchorage I have all to myself, and they used a bow thruster wtf, I hate the sound of those things😂
lydia
lydia
1941 posts
1941 posts
10 Jun 2026 11:33am
So removed the generator and had no solar, increased the house bank and the efficiency of fridge compressors and lights.
Generator working when removed.
HOW MUCH POWER YOU NEED EVERYONE?
No water maker, one fridge freezer and 2 freezers all 12 volt. No lithium (but high end Bosch AGM and alternators for fast charging)
You are not at home.
Never ran house bank to less than 50%.
Carried a petrol 2000w generator if we got stuck in an anchorage more than 4 days and that we used about once a year.
One tank would get us back to 100%
Sure you are sailing boat but still how much power do you actually use.
Better to focus on the other end of the equation.
New compressors are far more efficient than even ones from 5 years ago.
LED all interior lights etc etc.

This will surprise people, galley fridge freezer , in qld in summer about 100amphrs a day, Tasmania in summer about 24amphr
Good insulation is expensive but cheap.







cammd
cammd
QLD
4470 posts
QLD, 4470 posts
10 Jun 2026 1:56pm
So you charge with the engine, how is that more efficient than a generator?

It doesn't matter how efficient your electrical system is or how big your batteries are, whatever you take out has to be replaced.
Trek
Trek
NSW
1215 posts
NSW, 1215 posts
10 Jun 2026 4:32pm
I like solar and lithium batteries because barring rare breakdowns it makes the boat totally independent of the mainland. We can head off any time for an "unlimited" time. Very very rarely ever need to find somewhere to fill up with diesel run the engine for electric power.

Same reason for preferring a metho stove. Don't need to lug an LPG tank around or find a place to refill it. We can pull in anywhere that has a hardware shop and get more metho. After teaching everyone how to light it, which is a scary process, we can have a meat/fish and three veg meal anytime. One 75W solar panel (and a spare) with MPPT regulator 300AH of batteries has never in 5 years got desperately low in power. And that includes warming pies and sausage rolls in our 12V oven.

The old Volvo 2003 did have an alternator on it which was a very noisely and dodgy. Full of corrosion and rust. I thought about replacing it but after finding out the cost of a new one - no way. So because the solar power system was running fine I took it off 3 years ago and never looked back. Got rid of the fan belt that ran it, got rid of a lot of noise and the boat motors noticably faster. So for better or worse Ive dumped generators.
shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter
QLD
2680 posts
QLD, 2680 posts
10 Jun 2026 5:08pm
I upgraded the original 200AH house bank to 400AH when I added a windlass and hot water boiler on top of the keel ram. No solar, engine charge only.
The Indel fridge would last days if the only thing running. I found racing heavier for loads, you'd get a day and a half before needing a charge as normally theres half a dozen smart phones and all sorts of widgets plugged in being recharged as well as everything else electrical on.
cammd
cammd
QLD
4470 posts
QLD, 4470 posts
10 Jun 2026 7:12pm
Trek said..
I like solar and lithium batteries because barring rare breakdowns it makes the boat totally independent of the mainland. We can head off any time for an "unlimited" time. Very very rarely ever need to find somewhere to fill up with diesel run the engine for electric power.

Same reason for preferring a metho stove. Don't need to lug an LPG tank around or find a place to refill it. We can pull in anywhere that has a hardware shop and get more metho. After teaching everyone how to light it, which is a scary process, we can have a meat/fish and three veg meal anytime. One 75W solar panel (and a spare) with MPPT regulator 300AH of batteries has never in 5 years got desperately low in power. And that includes warming pies and sausage rolls in our 12V oven.

The old Volvo 2003 did have an alternator on it which was a very noisely and dodgy. Full of corrosion and rust. I thought about replacing it but after finding out the cost of a new one - no way. So because the solar power system was running fine I took it off 3 years ago and never looked back. Got rid of the fan belt that ran it, got rid of a lot of noise and the boat motors noticably faster. So for better or worse Ive dumped generators.


What do you do if you get a week or two of overcast weather.


cammd
cammd
QLD
4470 posts
QLD, 4470 posts
10 Jun 2026 7:41pm
lydia said..
You are not at home.



Yeah I am at home and I need to try and be as comfortable at anchor as I am sitting in a house and it needs to be sustainable for weeks or months at a time away from marinas.

Plus I want to come to Tassie and I am not sure solar would be reliable enough away from the tropics.

Trek
Trek
NSW
1215 posts
NSW, 1215 posts
10 Jun 2026 8:47pm
cammd said..

Trek said..
I like solar and lithium batteries because barring rare breakdowns it makes the boat totally independent of the mainland. We can head off any time for an "unlimited" time. Very very rarely ever need to find somewhere to fill up with diesel run the engine for electric power.

Same reason for preferring a metho stove. Don't need to lug an LPG tank around or find a place to refill it. We can pull in anywhere that has a hardware shop and get more metho. After teaching everyone how to light it, which is a scary process, we can have a meat/fish and three veg meal anytime. One 75W solar panel (and a spare) with MPPT regulator 300AH of batteries has never in 5 years got desperately low in power. And that includes warming pies and sausage rolls in our 12V oven.

The old Volvo 2003 did have an alternator on it which was a very noisely and dodgy. Full of corrosion and rust. I thought about replacing it but after finding out the cost of a new one - no way. So because the solar power system was running fine I took it off 3 years ago and never looked back. Got rid of the fan belt that ran it, got rid of a lot of noise and the boat motors noticably faster. So for better or worse Ive dumped generators.



What do you do if you get a week or two of overcast weather.




As mentioned in my post in 5 years never a problem. Even if its overcast the batteries charge. Thats why a good MPPT regulator is worthwhile. If the batteries are looking low just dont use the oven that day.
lydia
lydia
1941 posts
1941 posts
10 Jun 2026 7:51pm
cammd said..
So you charge with the engine, how is that more efficient than a generator?

It doesn't matter how efficient your electrical system is or how big your batteries are, whatever you take out has to be replaced.



Even with a sail boat you do a lot of motor sailing on the east coast so house bank is usually close to full.
So unless you are sitting in anchorages for more than 4 days at the time you will have some engine time even if it is steaming before getting sails up.

So last weekend on a sailboat, sat around for 2 days, i think I got to 67% on the house bank (i left power to instruments on to check stuff and had heavy computer usage as was updating stuff, fridge opened regularly, anchor light was out so left deck light on all night) and from memory that was about 2.5hrs steaming to get back to over 90%. Charging set up was putting in about 35 amp into 3 battery AGM set up. (Have gas stove/oven and hot water system runs off engine)

How much do you use each day?
lydia
lydia
1941 posts
1941 posts
10 Jun 2026 7:57pm
On a completely different issue, was having a big issue with the autopilot circuit randomly losing all power and spent hours and dollars looking at the power circuits, but seems the issue was missed software updates by the previous operator.
Problem seems no more.
Toph
Toph
WA
1887 posts
WA, 1887 posts
10 Jun 2026 9:24pm
I have a 4 KvA Fisher Panda in a sound proof case. If you can hear it you are too close to begin with.


I have toyed with the idea of getting rid of it next time it causes me enough trouble and going bigger on my house batteries.
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