Hot Alternator

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samsturdy
samsturdy
NSW
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13 Mar 2018 10:30am
My mate in the Creek has a 38 foot Bavaria and told me yesterday that his alternator runs very
hot, 'red hot' he reckoned. Is this a worry ?, is it a symptom of something mismatched ?. I'd like
to pass on any advice to him.
Cav30
Cav30
NSW
122 posts
NSW, 122 posts
13 Mar 2018 10:38am
Bearings gone?Belt too tight?Cheers
Ed.
Cav30
Cav30
NSW
122 posts
NSW, 122 posts
13 Mar 2018 11:39am
Bit of googling....

The diodes in your alternator are shorted out and holding the charge you are making when the engine is running, this causes the heat because they are unable to discharge the energy they are storing.

If it were mine i would replace.
UncleBob
UncleBob
NSW
1311 posts
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13 Mar 2018 12:56pm
samsturdy said..
My mate in the Creek has a 38 foot Bavaria and told me yesterday that his alternator runs very
hot, 'red hot' he reckoned. Is this a worry ?, is it a symptom of something mismatched ?. I'd like
to pass on any advice to him.


Suggest that it may be abnormal and that it is easy to take the alternator off and deliver to a good auto electrician for testing and if required repair.
garymalmgren
garymalmgren
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1392 posts
13 Mar 2018 7:46pm
A? Uncle bob says.
There is the added risk of engine room fire?
Charriot
Charriot
QLD
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QLD, 880 posts
14 Mar 2018 7:28am
Alternators are smart enough to limit charging current or cook themselves. The alternator can generate DC providing the boat battery supply excitation coils.
The alternator internal coils shorted, electronic faulty or mech. problems, just replace it.
what you describe. system stressed beyond further usage anyway.
samsturdy
samsturdy
NSW
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NSW, 1659 posts
14 Mar 2018 8:33am
Thanks guys....obviously he's going to have to take it off and get it checked out. Thanks for the response.
Datawiz
Datawiz
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605 posts
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14 Mar 2018 8:39am
samsturdy said..
My mate in the Creek has a 38 foot Bavaria and told me yesterday that his alternator runs very
hot, 'red hot' he reckoned. Is this a worry ?, is it a symptom of something mismatched ?. I'd like
to pass on any advice to him.




Sam, very high likelihood the alternator has at least one diode shorted. The right auto electrical specialist will probably be able to replace the faulty diode(s).
It could be a fire risk running in this condition.
This failure can be caused by switching the Battery selector switch whilst the engine is running, or any other action that results in the alternator not being connected to a battery when running.

regards,
allan
samsturdy
samsturdy
NSW
1659 posts
NSW, 1659 posts
14 Mar 2018 1:52pm
Datawiz said..

samsturdy said..
My mate in the Creek has a 38 foot Bavaria and told me yesterday that his alternator runs very
hot, 'red hot' he reckoned. Is this a worry ?, is it a symptom of something mismatched ?. I'd like
to pass on any advice to him.





Sam, very high likelihood the alternator has at least one diode shorted. The right auto electrical specialist will probably be able to replace the faulty diode(s).
It could be a fire risk running in this condition.
This failure can be caused by switching the Battery selector switch whilst the engine is running, or any other action that results in the alternator not being connected to a battery when running.

regards,
allan


Thanks Allan. I've just contacted him to say the consensus was a diode failure and could cause a fire, so
he's doing something about it pronto. It's a lovely boat and I would hate for a fire to happen. Thanks all.
Trek
Trek
NSW
1213 posts
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14 Mar 2018 6:41pm
If its still charging OK the diodes most likely not faulty and a mechanical problem sounds like the problem.

BTW the diodes dont actually store anything, they convert the AC (ie alternator) from the windings of the alternator to DC to suit a DC boat and battery.
woko
woko
NSW
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14 Mar 2018 10:21pm
Whoops for the hi jack... I've an old school book that describes a way of manually manipulating the field on an Alternator to gain continued max amps...... Suggested way to tell if your working the alternator to hard was " if you can't hold your hand on the alt for more than 30 seconds back off engine rps or ohms "
its allways good to have gear checked but how hot is too hot for an alternator???

Just checked sams op. Yep red hot would be too hot !
samsturdy
samsturdy
NSW
1659 posts
NSW, 1659 posts
15 Mar 2018 9:28am
Well 'red hot' is probably a bit of an overstatement woko, however it's obviously hot enough
to cause him concern, and Trek, he didn't state whether or not it was still charging but either
way he's been jolted into action so I'll let you know how it turns out.
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