Lowering the Main

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Toph
Toph
WA
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WA, 1884 posts
6 Jun 2017 3:54pm
Brains Trust
New (to me) yacht with new (to me) issues that I am sure we can sort out

When lowering the main, the sail doesn't drop as quick as I expect or even as far as I expect. I find myself having to hank most of it down by hand. I have recently sprayed the sail track and carts with a lubricant (made slight improvement), no apparent tangles in reefing lines or anything obvious. The only thing I can think of is that the main halyard is reasonably thick and much thicker then the rest of the lines and this could cause some resistance.

What could I be missing
Sectorsteve
Sectorsteve
QLD
2195 posts
QLD, 2195 posts
6 Jun 2017 6:40pm
How's the masthead sheaves? Wrong size sheaves for the rope , or any issues up there make hoisting and lowering difficult.
Trek
Trek
NSW
1213 posts
NSW, 1213 posts
6 Jun 2017 6:43pm
Sectorsteve said..
How's the masthead sheaves? Wrong size sheaves for the rope , or any issues up there make hoisting and lowering difficult.

Yes. Hoist a line up instead of the main and see if problem is halyard or sail track.
Sectorsteve
Sectorsteve
QLD
2195 posts
QLD, 2195 posts
6 Jun 2017 6:52pm
Trek said..

Sectorsteve said..
How's the masthead sheaves? Wrong size sheaves for the rope , or any issues up there make hoisting and lowering difficult.


Yes. Hoist a line up instead of the main and see if problem is halyard or sail track.


brilliant. I should have asked this question before I unstepped ! That'll work!
Sectorsteve
Sectorsteve
QLD
2195 posts
QLD, 2195 posts
6 Jun 2017 6:54pm
My sheaves were worn in fact they were square. Now I can raise and lower my main by hand . No winches required
shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter
QLD
2677 posts
QLD, 2677 posts
6 Jun 2017 8:04pm
If not masthead, try feeding halyard into mast entry sheave. I can have no wraps on the halyard winch and the sail is still slow to drop. Stand next to the mast and feed it, its down in seconds.
Donk107
Donk107
TAS
2446 posts
TAS, 2446 posts
6 Jun 2017 8:26pm
Hi Toph

If the sheeves etc check out ok what length boat do you have and what diameter are the existing halyards

On my 28 footer i had old 12mm double braid/wire halyards which i replaced with 8mm Dyneema and the sails go up and down much easier

I think it was well worth the money

Regards Don







FreeRadical
FreeRadical
WA
855 posts
WA, 855 posts
6 Jun 2017 9:28pm
Are you lowering it with the mainsheet or vang on too much?
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7756 posts
NSW, 7756 posts
7 Jun 2017 8:01am
Raise the boom with the topping lift slightly.
Toph
Toph
WA
1884 posts
WA, 1884 posts
8 Jun 2017 5:16pm
Thanks for all the replies.

So it wasn't the the vang or mainsheet being too tight nor the topping lift. Obviously I thrived the easier options first.
So I am still hopeful it is a too thick halyard causing friction (I tried your option too Shaggy).

It is either that or up the mast I (my wife ) will go to look at the sheeves...
Jode5
Jode5
QLD
853 posts
QLD, 853 posts
8 Jun 2017 8:11pm
A simple fix is to fit a retrieval line which are handy even if everything is in good order.
Tie a 4 or 6mm cord from the sail head to usually the top reef point. Make it so when the sail is hoisted the cord is tight. With a retrieval line it is just a matter of hauling the sail down. They are particularly good when the wind is blowing as you can tie the sail down tight.
southace
southace
SA
4803 posts
SA, 4803 posts
8 Jun 2017 7:49pm
I fitted the tides marine track system last year only got a chance to use it twice since last Christmas. The main drops like lightning now....it's still hard to host only due to the weight of the sail. Is your main hard to hoist Toph?
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
8 Jun 2017 10:00pm
Ramona said..
Raise the boom with the topping lift slightly.


That is one many of us miss.
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