Main Halyard Rope?

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stonedpirate
stonedpirate
WA
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4 Oct 2013 9:31pm
Hi

Currently my boat has a rope and wire halyard but the rope is really frayed and about to snap.

I heard that wire main halyards are a thing of the past and new ropes are the way to go.

Can someone please recommend a suitable rope type for a main halyard and where to buy it from?

Thanks for any advice :)
Ramona
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NSW
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5 Oct 2013 9:51am
8mm spectra if its going through jammers. Less if its going onto an old mast winch that had wire. EBay is as good as any.
Poodle
Poodle
WA
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5 Oct 2013 10:42am
All halyards are spectra / dyneema these days, SS wire long gone.

Try boating hardware in oconnor.

We replaced most of our halyards last year - I'd sell you our "decent" old ones for beer, but they are probably too big for your rig
stonedpirate
stonedpirate
WA
248 posts
WA, 248 posts
5 Oct 2013 11:29am
Cool

Thanks guys

After much reading, dyneema it is :)

Cheers
Supersonic27
Supersonic27
NSW
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5 Oct 2013 4:38pm
Hi the,

I believe that if you are changing from wire to rope, (wire rope to braided rope, but you know what I mean), you should change the masthead sheaves.


There are different sheaves for braid and wire.

Not the end of the world.

I will say that I did not change my headsail sheave, but I made sure I had some extra length, and I keep checking the spectra for chaff, so far so good, a bit over 12 months and no sign of any damage yet.

But you would need to keep an eye on it over a couple of short trips 1st, any sign of chaff, change the sheave, cut the chaffed bit off the halyard and go from there.

Cheers
Rick
HG02
HG02
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9 Sep 2014 9:01pm
ropegalore.com.au/
SirJman put this link up a while ago I have not used them yet but probably will later on
HG02
HG02
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9 Sep 2014 9:16pm
stonedpirate said..
Cool

Thanks guys

After much reading, dyneema it is :)

Cheers




I am wondering if Dyneema is so strong and your replacing wire rope halyards with Dyneema what thickness would you use
Ramona Quoted this which makes sense
8mm spectra if its going through jammers. Less if its going onto an old mast winch that had wire. EBay is as good as any.
LooseChange
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9 Sep 2014 11:26pm
The original post is now ten months old and the OP has likely resolved his issues in that time frame.
HG02
HG02
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9 Sep 2014 11:48pm
LooseChange said..
The original post is now ten months old and the OP has likely resolved his issues in that time frame.


thanks loose change
cisco
cisco
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10 Sep 2014 3:05am
LooseChange said..
The original post is now ten months old and the OP has likely resolved his issues in that time frame.


That surprises me.

In the land sailing forum if a topic gets that old the moderator has to unlock it

Aren't we lucky we have no moderator for the sailing forum??...............except maybe thee.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
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10 Sep 2014 9:00am
Well my 4 mm Spectra halyard for my Corsair arrived during the week. Off EBay of course. Just as well someone listens to my advice!
Seamonkey_H2024
Seamonkey_H2024
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10 Sep 2014 9:48am
For me a big factor for choosing my main halyard was a line that I'd be comfortable climbing up on. Thus I replaced ~4mm spectra with 8mm double braid poly, this was the biggest size I could get away with the existing sheave. Ideally you want a main halyard line with minimal stretch, but for a cruising clansman who gives a rats ass. I'm planning on replacing my wire mast winch with a plain open style.
Jolene
Jolene
WA
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10 Sep 2014 5:51pm
You could keep a dedicated climbing halyard in the hanging locker next to your suit and tie. When needed, it will be in 100% perfect condition for climbing and can be pulled thru the mast using another halyard of your choice.
Donk107
Donk107
TAS
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10 Sep 2014 8:03pm
I have problems getting a decent grip on small diameter lines because my hands are stiff (I can't clench my fist tightly)

I find that anything smaller than 8 mm is a bit of a struggle for me to get a decent grip on without wrapping it around my hand

Regards Don
nswsailor
nswsailor
NSW
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10 Sep 2014 11:04pm
Same here Don,

So I've actually just re-rigged SEAKA with 10 mm and used Dyneema on the Main and Jib halyards only.

Used 10 mm double braid on the spare halyard and reefing lines.

Rebuilt the mast head to put in the proper size pulleys and add a topping lift which is the only 8 mm rope.

Very happy
Ramona
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11 Sep 2014 9:02am
Jolene said..
You could keep a dedicated climbing halyard in the hanging locker next to your suit and tie. When needed, it will be in 100% perfect condition for climbing and can be pulled thru the mast using another halyard of your choice.


Yep. Climbing rope off eBay. Right size for the equipment and a bit more give than normal halyard rope like Spectra.
Charriot
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11 Sep 2014 5:27pm
nswsailor, my way too, 10mm just right,
and easy on pocket too

by the way my 4by4 friends, claim Dyneema is UV unstable and keep it out sun or install the winch cover.

Ramona....is it climbing rope significantly better than double braid ?
Seamonkey_H2024
Seamonkey_H2024
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11 Sep 2014 6:05pm
Jolene said..
You could keep a dedicated climbing halyard in the hanging locker next to your suit and tie. When needed, it will be in 100% perfect condition for climbing and can be pulled thru the mast using another halyard of your choice.


This is what I do. I've got about 30m of response rope that I hoist with the main halyard and topping lift as a backup. Then climb with two ascenders using single rope climbing techniques. The response rope only gets pulled up to the top of the mast.
Ramona
Ramona
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11 Sep 2014 6:42pm
Charriot said..
nswsailor, my way too, 10mm just right,
and easy on pocket too

by the way my 4by4 friends, claim Dyneema is UV unstable and keep it out sun or install the winch cover.

Ramona....is it climbing rope significantly better than double braid ?


Its made for climbing, pretty much standard size to suit all the climbers hardware. Has more give or it stretches more than yacht braid apparently. Seems cheap insurance to me. Stow when not in use.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/11mm-Response-XT-Static-Climbing-Abseiling-Rescue-Arborist-Rock-Climbing-Rope-/390434225723?pt=AU_Climbing_Equipment&hash=item5ae7b17e3b
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